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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

Once again, is that engagement common across all council areas?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

You have said that you are already collecting the views of children through local authorities, that that is done on a common basis and that the information is then fed to you nationally. How is it fed to you nationally? How do you evaluate what lands on your desk to ensure that those views are taken into consideration when policy is decided?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

Okay. Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

What I am interested in finding out is how children are able to input into Government policy.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

It is nice to hear something positive.

I will move on to something that is less positive: data. In this committee, we often hear that there is inadequate data or no data, and this issue is no different. Paragraph 71 of the report talks about a lack of data on the demand for childcare. It seems pretty basic that you would want those statistics to guide where you are investing. What work is being undertaken to address the lack of national data for funded and non-funded ELC?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

The councils are collecting all this data, but are they using a common process and common datasets so that they are comparable and you can collate them nationally?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

If I am comparing one council to another, would I be able to compare apples with apples?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

In the middle of all this, I think that you are saying that local authorities are collecting information in a manner that suits them locally but that may not be capable of being collated at national level into something that can be used by the Government. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

Okay. I will move on from that, but I cannot say that I am terribly convinced by what you are saying.

My next question is about the views of children. How is the Scottish Government progressing the recommendation in paragraph 103 of the Auditor General’s report that children’s views should be captured and considered as part of the future evaluation of the policy, in line with article 12 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

What are those ways?