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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

Welcome to the 12th meeting in 2023 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. We have received apologies from our convener, Stuart McMillan MSP. In his place, I welcome James Dornan MSP.

Before we move to the first item on the agenda, I remind everyone present to switch mobile phones to silent.

The first item of business is a declaration of interests. In accordance with section 3 of the code of conduct, I invite James Dornan MSP to declare any interests that are relevant to the remit of the committee.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you for that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments not subject to Parliamentary Procedure

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

In relation to SSI 2023/77, does the committee wish to bring to the lead committee’s attention the correspondence between this committee and the Scottish Government in relation to the commencement of section 93 of the Heat Networks (Scotland) Act 2021, which relates to a heat networks delivery plan?

Members indicated agreement.

10:04 Meeting continued in private until 10:08.  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

The instrument consolidates and revokes existing secondary legislation that provides measures to prevent the spread of tuberculosis in bovine animals, and also introduces new measures to strengthen prevention and increase compliance.

The committee identified an error in article 26(2)(a) of the order, in that the reference to article 2 of the order should instead be to article 22. Does the committee wish to draw the instrument to the attention of the Parliament on the general reporting ground for this cross-referencing error? Does the committee also wish to note that the Scottish Government intends to correct the error by correction slip?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

Also under this agenda item, no points have been raised on the following instruments.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

Under agenda item 3, we are considering two instruments, on which no points have been raised.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Bill Kidd

Is the committee content with the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you for everything so far; it has been extremely interesting.

Linked in with a number of the elements that you have talked about are, obviously, waiting times and waiting lists. Exhibits 4 and 5 on pages 21 and 22 of the report show that waiting times and waiting lists for planned care have increased and continue to grow, as has been said. They show that 5,458 people—3.4 per cent—have been waiting for more than a year for a diagnostic test or investigation. The report refers to limited progress in tackling that backlog of care and the increase in waiting times and waiting lists. Have we any evidence of people starting to look beyond the NHS for their healthcare? I ask that because we have all seen, on television, people saying that they are going to eastern Europe, or even further away, to get treatment more quickly.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you for that. There are some interesting points there.

I will go off on a minor tangent, but it is still linked. Patients are removed from the waiting list when they have attended their appointment or have been admitted for treatment; they are not on the list any more. If the treatment is no longer required for a patient for whatever reason, you would imagine, hopefully, that they are not on the list any more. Is there any data for the number of patients who have been removed from waiting lists due to no longer requiring treatment? Are there any trends that can be identified there?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Bill Kidd

It does; right, okay. Thank you very much for that.

The impacts of increased waiting times on people’s physical and mental wellbeing are highlighted in evidence that patients are presenting for care in a worse condition than prior to the pandemic. The report states that longer waiting times are impacting on people’s health and wellbeing, with patients presenting for care in a frailer and more acute condition and with more complex needs. Are assessments being made of the impact of current waiting times on the health and wellbeing of patients prior to their attendance in hospital or wherever?