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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Bill Kidd

On the practicalities of local authority partners implementing elements of the bill, one issue relates to supervision or guidance for those over the age of 18 and aftercare for those leaving secure care. As has been mentioned, COSLA gave evidence to the committee last week. Ben Farrugia and Jillian Gibson highlighted the difficulty of costing aftercare support. Ben Farrugia said that local authorities have to find a way to fund aftercare packages, because that is a statutory duty for them, and that that sometimes leads to overspends, which means that savings and cuts have to be made elsewhere. Jillian Gibson, from COSLA, said that the bill will expand aftercare support to more 16 and 17-year-olds but, as has been mentioned, there is no way to know what support needs those young people will have and, therefore, what the costs will be. Do you have any ideas?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Bill Kidd

On that basis, are the numbers of 16 to 18-year-olds coming through those services increasing, decreasing or standing still? How do you plan for what will be required in the future? Has that been thought about?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Bill Kidd

I can see that Stephen Bermingham wants to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Bill Kidd

I thank the witnesses for their useful information, which will help us going forward. Speaking of going forward, the work that you all do helps in the development of young people so that they can become better and stronger adults.

On the terms of supervision or guidance post-18, the committee heard at stage 1 that there is a need to ensure that young people do not face a “cliff edge” of support at the age of 18. To what extent can the updated costings—to come back to those—enable that issue to be addressed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Bill Kidd

That is very helpful. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Bill Kidd

That is extremely useful. As you know, the updated financial information estimates the cost of providing aftercare support for children over the age of 16 when they leave secure care at around £200,000 a year. It is being suggested, as you have addressed, that that could be absorbed into existing aftercare services. Has how much would be required going forward been thought about if that money cannot be absorbed into existing budgets? It is a considerable sum of money considering the number of young people we are talking about. Are there on-going talks to address that issue?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Bill Kidd

We are talking about regulations and the legal system. Paragraph 23 of schedule 2 provides that, when a regulator has acted or failed to act in a way that has had, or could have, an adverse impact on the observance of any of the regulatory objectives, and the matter cannot be addressed adequately by ministers taking measures such as setting performance targets or imposing a financial penalty, the Scottish ministers may make regulations to change or remove some or all of the functions of the regulator. The idea is that there would be additional requirements for the regulations, including the need to share them with consultees or lay them in draft before the Scottish Parliament. Do you have any reflections on the delegation of that power? Do you have any concerns about it? The super-affirmative procedure was mentioned earlier. How do you see that working or not working in relation to the exercise of that power?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you very much for your presentation. You are obviously aware of—and you have actually made remarks about—comments that have been made by key legal stakeholders in response to your report and the bill as introduced by the Government. The Government has indicated in response to some of the concerns expressed that it plans to lodge amendments at stage 2. Do you have a response to what it has proposed, and do you have any views specifically in relation to criticisms from legal stakeholders about the delegation of powers in the bill?

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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Bill Kidd

Asking this might be too much, because you have not seen what the proposals are as yet, but can you see any way towards a meeting of minds?