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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Bill Kidd

My questions are mostly for Bruce Eunson.

When I was at school, young people were ridiculed or given the belt for speaking Scots, but then the class would be taught what Rabbie Burns said. My thoughts on teachers go from one direction to another sometimes, to be honest.

How would the quality of Scots language education in schools these days be assessed? How would you know who was delivering it to the best and highest standards? Will people have to have a qualification in it in order to teach it, as they would if they were teaching Gaelic?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Bill Kidd

Thanks very much for all the evidence so far.

The Glasgow Gaelic school in the west end is very big, and its pupils start from a very early age and go right through. It has more than teaching staff; support staff and all sorts of others work there, too, and of course they do it all in the Gaelic medium. However, some of them have been under pressure with regard to job stability, and I just wonder whether the situation is the same across the country—I am hoping that it is not. I know of people on two-year or three-year contracts, and those contracts are running out, with no intention to extend them. Is it the same across Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Bill Kidd

Yes, there is an overlap between the Gaelic school education issue and the Scots school education issue.

How are teachers supported in initial teacher education to promote Scots usage in the classroom?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

As we all know, there will be a wee bit of to-ing and fro-ing in some of the sections, because they cross over each other quite a bit.

On qualifications for appointment as a judicial factor, when the Scottish Law Commission appeared before us on 16 April, it said that the court was best placed to decide who was suitable for the role. It highlighted that in the case of a farming business where two farmers fell out, for example, the person best placed to be appointed as a factor would be another farmer, because of their inside knowledge.

Section 4 of the bill sets out the qualifications required to be a judicial factor on that basis, with the main qualification being that the court decides who is most suitable for the role. The Scottish Law Commission and others, including the Law Society and Missing People, have said that the court is best placed to decide who is suitable in individual cases. Propertymark, on the other hand, wants the bill to be more prescriptive in its requirements, including by specifying certain professional qualifications. Having considered all the views that were expressed to the committee during stage 1 scrutiny, which policy decision out of those does the minister prefer? If you support any changes to section 4, will you please give us an idea of those?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

Okay. Are you aware of the concerns that have been raised? Have you had a look at them?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

This area can be complex for people who do not have much training, if any. What do you make of the view that the interrelationship between the two provisions in sections 34 and 38 needs to be explained more clearly in the text of the bill, for everyone’s benefit?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

That is perfectly reasonable. However, you mentioned that the explanatory notes could perhaps be strengthened to give people a clearer idea of the situation, particularly those who are very concerned about the outcomes that may apply in their own cases. Could that be looked into?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

On the back of that, when the Faculty of Advocates gave evidence to us on 23 April, it supported the current approach to appointments. When a judicial factor is appointed by the court in relation to a solicitor or a firm of solicitors under the Solicitors (Scotland) Act 1980, it is typically the Law Society’s in-house judicial factor who is appointed. However, the Faculty of Procurators of Caithness has suggested that the current system does not work and that the judicial factor in those types of cases should always be wholly independent of the Law Society. On the other hand, the Law Society, the Law Commission and the Faculty of Advocates expressed their support for the present system.

Having considered all the submissions that were put to the committee on the issue, what policy position does the Scottish Government prefer, and would you consider a specific statement in section 4 of the bill on the use of the Law Society’s in-house judicial factor?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

I have a question on financial eligibility criteria and how they are applied between those whose finances would be assessed and the person applying to be the judicial factor.

Missing People’s main policy concern regarding section 4 is practical: what will an application cost and will families be able to afford it? Can the minister offer families of people who go missing in Scotland assurances about the potential availability of legal aid and say whether financial eligibility criteria will be applied when considering legal aid applications? Would the resources of the applicant be assessed, or would it be those of the missing person?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Bill Kidd

Thank you, minister, for the replies that we have been getting—I am sure that they will be extremely helpful.

There is a relationship between section 34 of the bill, on discharge, and section 38, on investigations. The committee has been considering the interrelationship of those two sections. Section 34 says that discharge usually ends a factor’s liability, and section 38 covers the investigatory powers of the Accountant of Court and the court.

Can the minister confirm what the position is if a factor is discharged under section 34, but misconduct subsequently comes to light? What is the policy justification for the approach that would be taken in that instance?