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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Bill Kidd

So, work towards that commitment is being continued. I hope that we can look forward to seeing that next year.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

I understand, and your comments have been very helpful.

On the back of that, when we were discussing the proposed advisory council, someone talked about the representation of teachers and, indeed, who will be represented on that advisory council. Will that not help shape the approach that is taken to inspections? What is your view on how the council should be set up and how it should operate once established? That is, if it should be established—you might not think so.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

Yes—thanks, convener.

As has been said, it is very important that schools are not pinned to the wall and vilified because somebody has decided that something is not right. The fact is that every school has an overarching local authority, and the local authority’s contribution to the delivery of education needs to be evaluated, too. I see what you are saying about not pinning people to the wall and saying, “You’re no doing it right”, “You’re doing it wrong” or whatever, because there is more to it all than an immediate inspection would suggest. How do you communicate to learners, their parents and their carers—and, in fact, to voters in local authority areas—how a school is performing once you have overcome the difficulties with the present inspection regime? How do you get that out and let people know how a school is improving?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

You have a lot of work there by the sounds of it. Thank you very much indeed for that.

I have a potentially controversial question for Gillian Hamilton. What is your view of the suggestion that the inspectorate should be able to inspect the function and performance of other national bodies?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

I presume, then, that the witnesses are proposing that the correct way forward would be for us to be able to hear about not just when somebody has done something wrong, but all the things that are being done well. We need to push those things out, too, so that people believe in schools and we raise their expectations of schools and what they deliver.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

Okay—you will do it anyway.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

Yes, but the inspectorate will look into the functions and performance of other national bodies.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

Delivery is at the heart of the whole thing. Thank you very much for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

That sounds sensible. Does Stuart Hunter want to comment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Bill Kidd

Thank you very much for all the evidence—it has been very helpful. I have two quick questions. The first is for Janie McManus. What new approaches to the work of the inspectors are being considered?