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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 December 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

In that case I will stop there.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

I am getting a fairly clear sense—

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

So, from a providers’ point of view, you would say that the bill creates more of a level playing field.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

On the balance between patient safety, and accessibility or affordability, I get the sense that the whole panel is saying that patient safety must be the priority. Is there any merit in the counter argument that, if we reduce the accessibility of procedures for which there is commercial demand or we increase the cost by regulation, that will drive some people to access the same procedures completely outside the scope of regulation in a much more unsafe setting where they are not at all professionally delivered? Is there any argument that the impact could be negative in that way?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

You do not, in principle, see problems arising from divergence between the two jurisdictions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

It is inevitable that the closest comparisons that we make on a regulatory issue such as this are with other UK nations, but should we also be looking at the wider, global picture? If we raise standards to a regulatory level that we are happy with here, there will be people who get encouraged to go on holiday and get procedures done unsafely somewhere else. Is there anything that we can or should do under the bill that would address the issues of information, awareness or promoting access to services in other jurisdictions and other countries? Is there anything that we can do in that regard to address safety?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

I will move on to questions regarding fairness and equality. We have heard, both at our previous meeting and in some of the written evidence, a range of views about equalities impacts as a result of the bill. There are those who make the argument that many of the available services and procedures are being provided by a workforce that is predominantly made up of women who are working independently. Many working-class communities see this area of work as something that is rooted in their community.

On the other side, there is a concern that the equalities impacts will extend to reduced availability and increased cost for these procedures, and that many marginalised groups, or groups affected by equalities issues, will be more at risk if safety standards are not high. Those groups may be targeted more by the industry and may be more likely to access these services.

Can you give us an overview of your attitude to the equalities impacts? It may be that they cut in both directions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

Even in that answer, you said, “these things”, but is there a clear definition of which things we are referring to as medical procedures?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

Good morning. I am curious. I was already thinking about this because of the term “medical aesthetics”, which has come up several times. There has been a discussion about the idea that some procedures have been demedicalised, or that the term “medical” is in contention. I have a basic question. What determines whether a procedure is medical? What defines medical aesthetics as opposed to non-medical procedures that people might have for aesthetic reasons? Is it the qualifications of the person who is conducting the procedures, the setting in which they are conducted, how they are regulated or whether they are done for medical reasons—in other words, to treat a medically diagnosed condition?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Patrick Harvie

There is not an objective definition, then. We are using the term, “medical aesthetics”, but is there a clearly accepted definition of what that refers to and what it does not?