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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 May 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Duncan, do you want to say something?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

To whom does that percentage apply?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I will bring in David Torrance to take us forward, but I think that he would like to start by following up on the area that we have just been discussing.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Kirsty Doig, do you have anything to contribute at this point?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. That is an important and thoughtful note on which we will end this round-table discussion.

I now suspend the meeting to allow for a change in witnesses.

11:02 Meeting suspended.  

11:05 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Ewing. You always provide an appropriate metaphor—in this case, it was “floundering around”. You put a challenge to members of the panel, and I think that they are ready to respond to your question. I first ask John Lunn whether he agrees with your suggestion about making it a statutory duty to ensure that every child has the opportunity to learn to swim.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

As we get to the end of the evidence session, I invite you all to think of any last comments that you want to make or any further thoughts that we have not touched on.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

No, but I was interested when you said that the majority of Scottish people like to be near water when they are on holiday. Perhaps it is just that we are used to getting wet.

Abi Thomson, would you like to contribute at this stage?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

That is what I am trying to understand. I get what you are saying about the pressures on family budgets and that the scale of that is all the more intense in areas of deprivation. I am trying to understand whether the issue is the budgetary aspect of swimming or whether there is less appreciation by parents of how important it is. Does that need to be worked on, or is there a high level of understanding of that importance? I am curious about that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

They are beginners, and their first experience of learning to swim is through school lessons. I am intrigued by something that we have not touched on. Do you have any understanding of where the ability to swim sits within parental priorities? Is there a parental understanding of its importance and a desire to see it happen, or is it something that happens, but without the impetus to ensure that it does?