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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
I am content with that. In asking the Government to undertake an exploration of the benefits and disadvantages, I might also draw to its attention, or provide it with, the response that we received from the UK Government saying that it would be very happy to engage on the whole matter.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
Please do.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
PE1900 was lodged by Kevin John Lawson. The petition, on which, as colleagues will recall, we have previously taken evidence, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to ensure that all detainees in police custody can access their prescribed medication, including methadone, in line with existing relevant operational procedures and guidance. We took evidence from former members of the Drug Deaths Taskforce and, subsequently, the Minister for Drugs Policy. We explored a range of issues in relation to the petition, including the use of dihydrocodeine, access to monitoring data and implementation of the medication-assisted treatment standards.
The committee has received two submissions from the petitioner, Kevin John Lawson, which are included in our papers, and correspondence from NHS Grampian to the Minister for Drugs Policy, which was an area that we explored in our cross-examination.
The correspondence from NHS Grampian confirms that it is currently unable to administer MAT, including methadone, in a police custody setting. That, it states, is due to historical constraints and the absence of a controlled drug licence.
The correspondence states that NHS Grampian has set up two short-life working groups, one of which is specifically tasked with completing the implementation of MAT standards in police custody. NHS Grampian is also looking to have a controlled drug licence in place by the end of February this year.
In the light of the responses received, do colleagues have any comments or suggestions for action?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
Colleagues, are we agreed? We also want to contact Highland Council in relation to PE1980, as well as contacting IAM Roadsmart, the Road Haulage Association and VisitScotland to seek their views on the Achnasheen and Gorstan petition. Along with acting on the suggestions that have been made, are we collectively content to keep the petitions open and begin our investigation by pursuing our inquiries with those bodies?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
Our expressing an interest in pursuing the matter might ensure that something is pursued.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
The petitions raise important issues. Colleagues, do you have any suggestions or comments?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
Does anyone have any further thoughts?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
I might be less surprised—he said, trying not to be party political—that the Scottish Government is not rushing to follow the UK Government. However, the fact that the European Union is pursuing a similar legislative solution leaves us as a bit of an outlier and potentially open as the source of comfort to those whom we least want to potentially assist.
Moreover, I take Mr Ewing’s point that it is one thing for the Scottish Government to assert that the 2021 legislation will have dealt with matters here. We would like to understand how that is to be achieved, rather than it just being asserted that it is the case. I agree with Mr Ewing that this is an important issue and that the committee could pursue it further in the light of the evidence that we receive. It would be useful for the people whom we contact to know that we are minded so to do if we feel that the answers that we receive are in the first instance less than persuasive.
Mr Sweeney, you look like you are seeking to intervene.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
I am happy to pursue those things. I hesitate in relation to the member’s bill point, simply because, as a member of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, I know that we already have a record number of members’ bills before us in this session of Parliament, and I struggle to see how we are going to get round to considering them all before 2026. However, we would certainly want to pursue Mr Sweeney’s other suggestions in the first instance.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
Jackson Carlaw
As there any no other suggestions, are colleagues content to proceed on that basis?
Members indicated agreement.