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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Crikey!

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We know that Callum will meet the First Minister. In considering Callum’s evidence and taking forward the petition, does the committee agree to write to the First Minister following the meeting to outline the objectives that Callum has set and to find out what she and the Scottish Government might be able to do to advance the objectives of the petition?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I suppose that, like you, I have made assumptions about the existence of a regulatory and legislative environment. Why do you think that we all thought that?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

In essence, then, there is protection against commercial harvesting without permission.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. Before I bring in colleagues, let me say that we saw the portfolio of photographs, which were striking. We found the series of images to be arresting. It is extraordinary how much stuff can just be dropped in and be so successful at invading a space and crowding round it.

What has got us to where we are now? Is it a lack of knowledge or a lack of regulation? Is it a lack of enforcement of the limited regulation that there might currently be? You might say that it is all those things.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2022 of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee.

Agenda item 1 is consideration of continued petitions. PE1896, which was lodged by Callum Isted, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to provide every primary school child in Scotland with a reusable water bottle. The petition calls for the disposable water bottle that is provided with many primary school lunches to be replaced with a sustainable, reusable metal bottle.

We give the warmest of welcomes to Callum, who is the Scottish Parliament’s youngest ever petitioner. We are absolutely delighted that he has found time to come in and have a chat with us about his petition. We welcome his dad, James, who joins him, and his mum, Sarah, who is in the public gallery. His local MSP, Sue Webber, also joins us, and I am very jealous to see that she has already been gifted a very fancy and colour-appropriate reusable water bottle.

Callum, it is great to have you with us. To start off, tell us a bit about yourself—how old you are, which primary class you are in at school and why you decided to lodge the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I hope that you have a lot—or a few—friends in the class.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I will touch on something that I noted in the petitioners’ most recent written submission. We have talked quite a bit about commercial forestry and issues arising from that, but the submission also touched on mountain biking. I am not a mountain biker. Those days are behind me. However, as it happens, I do quite a lot of walking in the Alps, on the continent, where I have seen a fairly massive expansion of mountain biking as a pastime.

It is interesting to me that, in France, Switzerland or wherever else, an awful lot of Scottish families participate. I am aware of that because of being suddenly struck by the accents. There is a very strong Scottish thread through it. It is interesting for those of us who are walking in the Alps or wherever, going down, to see the various biking trails that have been put in place, which tend to be designed to get from the top to the bottom in the fastest possible time. They are not stopping for a picnic halfway down; they are getting to where they have to get to. Clearly, that is an emerging and growing sport, and the thrill of it is that it is not through open country but through forested country—the whole thing is in the cuts and turns of doing it.

Given that that appears to be an emerging, growing and popular sport, for which there could be an ever-increasing demand, how do you see its being accommodated? It will have to be accommodated, if it is popular. How should such a thing be accommodated within the landscape? Where is it appropriate and where would it be better not to facilitate it? Does it need to be managed in some way, rather than just produced on a whim?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, both, very much. I know that it was a very early start for you. I hope that you can see that the committee is very interested in your petition, which has opened up a number of issues that it would be worth while for us to pursue and further examine in some detail. That process began with your evidence this morning, and it will now continue with the round-table discussion. We will liaise with you as we take the petition and the discussion further forward.

I suspend the meeting briefly.

10:49 Meeting suspended.  

10:57 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I invite David Torrance to lead us into an area of discussion.