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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

As we come to the end of the evidence session, I want to give the witnesses the opportunity to mention anything that we have not touched on. Obviously, we will have the round-table session shortly, and I know that you are going to stay in the public gallery to observe that. Is there anything that you would like to add to our thinking?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. I will bring in the first of our virtual contributors: Claudia Rowse from NatureScot.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

First, we will go to Andy Leitch, then to Claudia Rowse, then to Andrew Weatherall, after which we will come back to Paul.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

An hour has evaporated pretty quickly. Before I bring the session to an end, I ask each witness to give any reflections on the conversation that we have had or to make a point that they think we have missed or not focused on enough.

Andy Leitch, we have not heard from you for a while, so I will come to you first. You have been able to hear much of what has been said. Would you like to leave us with a final thought?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Out of interest, where is the nearest native ancient woodland to where we are just now?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Maybe we will go. I am all for an outdoor outing. It might be quite useful to us.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you all very much. It has been incredibly helpful. Given that we are coming into the summer, I like the idea of sensing the thing for ourselves—because, potentially, we all think that we know about it; certainly, we all have an investment in it; and, from everything we have heard, there are some serious issues underpinning the petition that the committee will want to reflect on in the light of all the evidence that you have given us this morning and that we heard from the petitioners.

I thank you all—those who have come here and those who have joined us virtually. That has been very helpful. I briefly suspend the meeting.

11:54 Meeting suspended.  

11:57 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

It would be useful to draw the attention of the Scottish Government to the evidence that we have received about that reduction. I agree with what you say. Given that there are local taxi licensing boards, I would have expected that we would get a fuller response.

We have quite a full schedule ahead but, as this will be an on-going issue, do we agree to seek to have an evidence session around the issues that are raised by the petition?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Do members agree to the suggested action?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Monica. It is extraordinary in many respects, because when I first came to this Parliament in 2007, so much of the discussion that we had in the chamber was about the destigmatisation of mental health. Many of the mental health charities and organisations changed their names to become more accessible, and all of that was designed to destigmatise mental health issues and encourage more people to come forward.

The problem that we have is that, notwithstanding the expansion of services that there has been, people’s willingness to come forward with acute mental health conditions that they probably did not come forward with previously means that, in some acute situations, help is just not there. I think that we all assume that it is there, but there is increasing evidence that there is considerable pressure on services.

Do colleagues have comments or suggestions on how we might proceed?