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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 June 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am tempted to say that that might be how you do things in the Scottish National Party, but it is certainly not how we do things in my party. [Laughter.]

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Okay—that is helpful. After that, there is a recommendation about a web page.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

The third section is on public involvement in parliamentary business. Gillian Ruane has been sitting patiently. Gillian and John will lead on this section.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. Ronnie Paterson, Paul MacDonald, Gillian Ruane, John Sultman and Maria Schwarz, thank you all for joining us. I thank you and your colleagues for participating, and I know that your kind thanks to the many officials who were involved in assisting with the process will have been noted and appreciated. We look forward to discussing the report and to having further consultation and discussion on it with our colleagues. I hope that you will feel that, in due course, it produces results that you feel are worth while.

We will now move into private session.

11:55 Meeting continued in private until 12:10.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Is Paul Sweeney or David Torrance prompted to ask any questions on this section?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. That brings us to the final section of the report, which is “Communication and Education”. Paul MacDonald and Gillian Ruane will lead on this section.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am struck by the conflation of the Parliament and the Government. Sometimes, people in the Government might cynically think that the Parliament is part of the Government, but it is not.

It is interesting that, on reflection, most of the communications that people receive are from the Government—for example, they might be mailings to households relating to the pandemic, when the Government felt that it had to communicate, or national Government priorities—or from individual MSPs, potentially by way of an annual report. Such reports should not be party political, because the Parliament does not fund such things, but I know that some members find it difficult for those not to be just a collection of photos of things that they have done, given that there is a limit on what they can describe about their activities.

People also receive leaflets from political parties, which are, of course, much more pejorative. Given that we live in a United Kingdom with two Parliaments, those are often directed not at anything in particular in terms of institutions, but at politics elsewhere.

I am struck by the fact that, through the exercise that you were all involved with, you very much felt that the blurring of the lines between the Parliament and the Government affected how you thought about the Parliament as an institution, separate from the Government, with which the public can engage directly. Is that correct?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Given the response from the Scottish Government and its detailed explanation of its various initiatives, I think that there is little more that we, as a committee, could do. Are colleagues content to close the petition on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I wanted to pursue that issue myself. You started by saying that you thought that the incident in Elgin was isolated to the particular example that the petition raised. I was unclear why you thought that, but you explained that, although the information is not publicly transparent, it is there, and through the information that Police Scotland has available, you have been able to satisfy yourselves that it was just an isolated example. Therefore, when you said in response to the committee that the Scottish Government is giving consideration to that, it is not that you are considering a wholly new process, because you believe that the information is there already, but that you are considering how that information that is not necessarily or demonstrably available for people could be more transparent, so that people can see that the medicines have actually been prescribed. Is that correct?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to the 17th meeting in 2022 of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. I am delighted that we have our deputy convener, David Torrance, back with us this morning. He has been absent for a few meetings.

We have a busy meeting this morning, including three evidence sessions on three important issues. Later, we will be joined by a golden eagle who is coming along, not to give evidence but to evidence one of the petitions that we will be discussing.

Agenda item 1 is for me to confirm with colleagues that we will take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Do we agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.