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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

A strand of thinking that you have articulated that registers with me is that we have no timetable. We are simply told that work was done in 2022 and that it will lead to findings being brought to the Scottish Government for consideration. That does not give us a timeline. It could take any amount of time for that to happen, then the Government could take any amount of time to consider the findings, and it could be any time after that before any consequence is suggested.

I wonder whether we might ask the Scottish Government, or whatever the appropriate body is, for a slightly more accountable timeframe to which it can be held. I do not know that there is much more that we can do after that. I am not sure whether Rhoda Grant’s suggestion is one for the committee or whether it is for more personal intervention. Do colleagues have any thoughts?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

As there are no other suggestions from members, are we content to do as Mr Torrance suggests?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Well, if your glass is usually half empty and mine is usually half full, therein is a full glass that we can hope to achieve.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

As Mr Ewing’s glass is half empty and mine is half full, maybe that will mean a successful outcome. I think that we agree that we want to pursue the issues raised in the petition, and we have detailed the ways in which we will do so. The petitioner will have heard all that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I agree with that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

It is clearly reassuring to those of us on the committee that the Scottish National Party is such a broad church in terms of the views and personalities that it incorporates. The committee is largely agreed on what we think the final outcome might be, but I take the point that we have reached a conclusion without actually understanding why there is a variation. In the first instance, it might be useful for us to have some further understanding of why that variation occurs. Are you content with our pursuing it on that basis, Mr Torrance?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

It is not so much that you are withdrawing your recommendations as it is that we are deferring them subject to that further advice being received.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Perhaps we could explore that. [Interruption.] I wonder how to pursue that in the round. NHS Grampian has said that it has not been able to implement the MAT standards in police custody without explaining to us why that is the case, so I wonder whether we might pursue that point directly with NHS Grampian in the first instance, as an example of a health board that is struggling.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I should have begun the meeting by asking members whether they are content to take item 3 in private. Are we content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

In that case, that brings us to the end of the public part of our meeting. We will next meet on 1 February.

10:46 Meeting continued in private until 11:04.