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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 December 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

As you say, the circumstances in some communities lend themselves more to heat networks than to other solutions. In large parts of my constituency, many houses are half a mile or more away from others. The circumstances of such areas do not lend themselves to some solutions, although plenty of other sustainable forms of heating would meet their requirements. There might be areas that we can concentrate on. We look to other countries—everyone looks to the example of Copenhagen, where a huge proportion of the population in that urban area is looking at heat networks. I have met a number of the companies that are involved and have offered encouragement and as much certainty as we can provide about investment in heat networks in the future.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

We are taking a great number of combined measures to try to bring down emissions from buildings. We are conscious that, as a country, 20 per cent of our carbon emissions come from our buildings, and we will have to address that fact if we are to reach the ambitious targets that we all have for 2045.

There are individual schemes, which I am sure the committee will want to ask about. For instance, there is our heat in buildings programme and our budget for that, and we also have the area-based schemes for improving the energy efficiency of people’s houses and, we hope, reducing emissions. We must do all that work hand in hand with an effort to ensure that anything that we do in that sphere does not have the unintended consequence of putting people into poverty.

Those are a few of the things that we are doing. Perhaps the officials might want to add something to that list.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

Yes, it is certainly welcome. From memory, the figure that has been quoted is 6 per cent of installations, and, yes—it would apply across the UK.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

The Government has funded the service for more than 15 years, and the Energy Saving Trust administers the Home Energy Scotland advice service on our behalf. Demand for the service has been high, although it has decreased from the 138,000 households that the service supported in 2022-23. As a Government, we are committed to ensuring that the funding is applied to ensure that the advice service exists in the future, and the Scottish Government regularly reviews the grant to ensure that that happens.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

I reiterate that both the difficulty of working during Covid and the cost of materials in its wake were deterrents to many contractors.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

I should be clear that, although we are awaiting important information from the UK Government, which we are having good conversations with, I am not suggesting that the timing of our decisions about the bill is based on any of that information.

UK Government decisions are nonetheless relevant. As you are aware, there is an on-going conversation about electricity pricing, the relative price of electricity and gas, the review of electricity market arrangements and the reform of many parts of the network. The decisions that the UK Government takes will clearly interact with our own legislation.

I will bring in others to talk about some of the conversations that we are having.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

My predecessor, Patrick Harvie, made it clear that that particular target was not achievable. I agree with Mr Harvie on that. It is as well that the Government comes to the Parliament and presents targets that are achievable. It is not honest to do anything else.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Retrofitting of Housing for Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

I will bring you in, Gareth. The figures that I have for annual heat pump installations are as follows: 2,448 in 2019; 2,993 in 2020; 4,667 in 2021; 5,146 in 2022; and 6,388 in 2023. The importance of heat pumps in our effort to decarbonise and improve Scotland’s housing stock is increasingly significant as the years go by.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

The member rightly points to the distinctive housing types in different locations, including in many parts of rural Scotland. We are committed to building on the progress that has been made in improving the energy efficiency of those houses. Although some rural and island households have made the transition, we recognise that, for some properties, there are limitations due to their location or building type or, indeed, due to grid capacity. In rural and island communities, Scottish Government support is available to improve the energy efficiency of homes and to switch heating systems through, for example, the social housing net zero heat fund and various other schemes. Many of those schemes include a rural and islands uplift to reflect the very issues that the member rightly points to.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Alasdair Allan

I met ministerial colleagues on 12 September 2024 to agree the issuing of grant offers for area-based schemes. We agreed that that was a priority and noted the challenge in completing some projects by March. The grant offer therefore extends to June 2025 to help to ensure ABS project completion.

We have also boosted fuel poverty support this winter by allocating an extra £20 million to the warmer homes Scotland scheme, taking its support to £85 million. Through the 2025-26 budget, we propose to invest more than £300 million in our heat in buildings programmes, including support for people in fuel poverty.