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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

The convener raised a point about “have regard to”. When it comes to the rural support plan, what should ministers have regard to? I have asked this in a previous context and I know that there is a well-understood legal meaning of “have regard to”, but what is your understanding of that? What should be had regard to and how should that be made enforceable?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

Jonnie Hall, on your point about the importance of producing food, you have highlighted to us in the past the importance of the connection between support and production. Can you say a bit more about that with regard to producing quality food for the country? Other places have gone down a different route and broken that connection. In the past, you have mentioned the need to ensure that the Subsidy Control Act 2022 does not frustrate us in pursuing a different path or ploughing a different furrow. Will you say a bit more about the connection between support and production and what scope there is for Scotland to do something different?

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

I want to ask Jonnie Hall to build on some of his earlier points about the link between production and support. I appreciate that it is a link, not a tie. However, we heard earlier from Lesley Mitchell about the regime that is likely to exist for, say, English hill farmers, so there is a distinction in policy being made, or likely to be made, in the two countries. How do we ensure that we can act in a way that meets Scottish needs on this and that we are not pressured into doing something that breaks that link completely in the way that may be happening in England?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

Before you do, convener, I just want to come in, as that point of view could go unchallenged. As we have heard, it is quite useful to put many things into secondary, rather than primary, legislation. The point is not a statement that should go unchallenged.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

A few people have touched on the difficulties that farmers have in transforming what they do for want of information about the support that they might receive or the adequacy of such support. Do people have views on the other bit of that, which is that the Scottish Government and, more important, Scottish farmers have no idea what the funding envelope from the UK will be beyond 2025? How does that impact on farmers’ thinking and decision making?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

Is there a good time?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

I will put words in their mouths, but I think that Donald MacKinnon and Vera Eory were talking about the value of low-intensity agriculture in terms of the legislation that defines sustainable and regenerative agricultural practices. My question might be aimed at Donald MacKinnon. Can you explain where crofting fits into that picture of low-intensity agriculture and what crofters are already doing to achieve the aims of regenerative agriculture?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

Liz Barron-Majerik mentioned the benefits of sending policy signals—to use a phrase that Kirsty Jenkins used—about some of the issues, such as five-year funding for agriculture. I appreciate that you might not like me making this point, convener, but the Scottish Parliament does not know from month to month what its income will be next year, never mind in five years, not only on agriculture but on any other portfolio. Given some of what we have heard today, would it be worth another try to get a UK agriculture minister to come and explain that situation, given that the previous one told us that he was unavailable indefinitely?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Alasdair Allan

For clarity, I do not know whether other members have had much of a chance to speak yet—some have—but I was wanting in; I make that point.

I want to ask about the definition of sustainable and regenerative agricultural practices. I realise that others have touched on that and we have talked around it in the context of other legislation, too. There is a balancing act between putting definitions in the bill and being flexible in order to avoid omissions from that list and the Government having to continually come back to the Parliament to change the legislation every time that there is a demand for it to do something new. How do we get that balance right when defining sustainable and regenerative agricultural practices in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Alasdair Allan

Ministers will have to have regard to—I know that that is a loaded and specifically intended phrase—the climate change plan and other duties in law, and they must align their actions to the forthcoming climate change plan and the biodiversity plan. Can you tell me what “have regard to” means in this context, or what you understand ministers will have to do to comply with those areas of policy?