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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

It is a draft plan so there will be a consultation phase following the publication of the plan. Heather Buchanan, what statements would you like to see in the draft plan?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

I have a similar question around the draft plan for James Close. We have heard about the Grangemouth future industry board during our inquiry. That largely comprises public bodies that have been brought together to co-ordinate things. Last week, Scottish Enterprise, when we asked how GFIB ensures collaboration with the private sector as well as the public sector, said that that former aspect could be reviewed.

What are your views on the draft plan? What would you like to see in it? Have you, or any of the other witnesses, had any engagement with the Grangemouth future industry board?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

I invite Ben Howarth to respond to the question. I will then bring in Michelle Thomson, who has an interest in some of the issues that have been raised, followed by Colin Beattie.

Ben, my initial question was around the appetite for green finance in Scotland. How do you see the picture developing in Scotland?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

The inquiry is into a just transition for the Grangemouth area, which is a recognition that the major petrochemical site in Grangemouth has a big impact on our climate targets and our emissions. Is Bankers for Net Zero involved in that area? Is it more focused on SMEs, or is it looking at the bigger challenges that we have with industry?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

Good morning and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2023 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Under item 1, I ask members to agree to take consideration of the evidence received for our work on the disability employment gap and next steps in private at future meetings.

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

In advance of the 26th United Nations climate change conference of the parties in Glasgow, we took evidence from a panel of SMEs, and that is what we heard. It does not seem as if much has changed. There have been additional pressures, such as the cost of living crisis and problems with supply chains following the war in Ukraine. The SMEs said that it was difficult to know where to go for information and support.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

I have a similar question for James Close on the appetite for green finance in Scotland. Do you see demand for your services from businesses? Do you have any insights into businesses in Scotland and in the Grangemouth area in particular that are looking to ensure that we have a just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

Is it fair to say that we are not yet at the stage where the scenario that you have just described is happening. Are we on the precipice of that happening? What are the barriers? What is stopping this from getting under way?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Claire Baker

I am going to allow Graham Simpson a short supplementary question before I come to Colin Smyth.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Claire Baker

I find it interesting where the conversation has ended up. During the evidence sessions, I have found myself reflecting on the phrase “just transition for Grangemouth” that we have been talking about and how it suggests a shift from somewhere that is already positive and viable. I know that what we are talking about here is the industrial complex making the shift to net zero, but as we have heard from Adam Gillies and as his submission shows—indeed, Malcolm Bennie talked about this, too—there are high levels of poor health and low employment in the area. In some ways, Grangemouth is still living with the consequences of its industrial heritage from longer ago.

I was just thinking about the draft plan that the Government is putting together and which we are expecting towards the end of spring. Malcolm Bennie was, I think, heading in this direction when he talked about the need to think about not just the industrial base but the broader community; in some ways, such an approach starts from a completely different place from the industrial base, with different challenges being faced. I suppose that it all comes back to one’s interpretation of “just transition”. Do you think that the Government’s draft plan will take a broader view, and do you think that that is something that the committee should be emphasising to the minister?