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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

As other members have said, there is an issue around the yearly allocation of the fund. You said that this year is when you will perhaps look to review the fund. We met local groups and, although they are all grateful for the money that they have received, which is making a difference to their organisations, they spoke about the timescales that they had to work to, especially for capital projects, and the fact that it had to be something that was ready to go, rather than something that they were working towards. In our report, the committee will reflect on how the fund was distributed and what improvements can be made to that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

Being transformational is not always about energy change, which you gave as an example. Such change benefits us in achieving net zero, because we are decarbonising, but being transformational is also about investing in and empowering a community. That goes back to some of the other questions about previous deindustrialisation, in which communities were left behind. It is about understanding what transformational is. It is about the nuts and bolts of making the change and getting us to net zero, but it is also about how you transform a community and involve it in the process.

You will know that we did an inquiry into Grangemouth. The committee took further evidence on Grangemouth, because we are concerned about the announcements on that. From the outside, it looks concerning; it does not really look like a just transition. It is about how we prevent that and make sure that the investment goes directly to communities and empowers them to take more ownership of projects.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

It is a very open question.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

That might be something that we will pick up. We might contact the minister, because, although the update is welcome, there is concern around the attached timescales and how long it will take to deliver those changes.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

Thank you.

That brings us to the end of this morning’s evidence session. I thank the minister and Catriona Laing for joining us. We now move into private session.

10:52 Meeting continued in private until 11:24.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2024 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Our first item of business is the final evidence session in our inquiry into a just transition for the north-east and Moray.

I welcome the Minister for Small Business, Innovation, Tourism and Trade, Richard Lochhead. He is joined by Catriona Laing, who is deputy director for climate change in the Scottish Government.

If members and witnesses could keep their questions and answers as concise as possible, that would be helpful. I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

Okay. Thank you. I will bring in Maggie Chapman, who will be followed by Kevin Stewart.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

Before I bring in Brian Whittle, we hear what you are saying about financial restrictions when it comes to the fund, but this is a 10-year project, so we need to look towards the horizon, the end point and the just transition lab. Some concerns have been raised. For a start, financial transactions are more suited to the commercial sector and bigger players, and it is difficult for community-driven projects to access that funding.

You said that there are restrictions in the coming financial year, but do you see any way of making more funding available for bigger-scale community projects? I am talking not about some fund for fixing the Scout hall—which would be valuable—but about things on a bigger scale. What kind of funding will be available for them? Do you see that funding being available to those projects over the 10 years? How do we shift the funding to that area—or, indeed, instead of shifting it, make the funding accessible to that area?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

This is your final question, and then I will move to Kevin Stewart.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Claire Baker

I have a couple of questions for clarity. Did you say that you would do an analysis of the fund this year?