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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 January 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

David, is that similar to your view of how they are operating?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Is some of the difference between local authorities to do with their understanding of definitions or a lack of clarity on what they are trying to deliver?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Ashley Ryan, there is a question that is linked to that about how we measure success. The Government’s target is about employment, which is a legitimate target and it is the one that we are scrutinising, but does that maybe not recognise that some people are involved in other roles? For example, some of the young people we met yesterday were in volunteering work. I asked whether they wanted to move into paid employment and they said that they felt that the volunteering role suited them more in the circumstances that they were in. Voluntary organisations say to us that, sometimes, it is about increasing somebody’s confidence and their life skills and it is not always about employment. Do you think that we are measuring enough or we are measuring the right things?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Welcome to the 13th meeting in 2024 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. I have received apologies from Gordon MacDonald; Bob Doris is attending as committee substitute. Our first item is for the committee to agree to take item 3 and all future consideration of evidence for the inquiry in private. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

As I said earlier, the committee did have a look at this last year and one of the issues that we identified was unmet need. All organisations talk about how many people have been supported. Do you think that there is an unmet need out there in the Borders and what have you done to reach out to or identify people with those needs?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

As I said at the beginning, we have met young people and people with lived experience. Most of their experience of school or of leaving school and transitioning has been not very positive. Do you think that is an area where we are letting down young people with neurodivergent conditions and learning disabilities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

We are taking evidence from Colleges Scotland in the coming weeks.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Elizabeth Baird, you said that you are providing wage incentives or wage supplements for employers. Did your local authority decide to provide that from the money for the no one left behind policy? Does that flexibility come with that funding? How are you delivering that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

That concludes the first part of the evidence session. Dave McCallum has generously offered to send us more material. If anybody else has more material that they feel they could not share with us this morning, we would be happy to receive it. Thank you all for your contributions. We will suspend the meeting while we change over witnesses.

10:35 Meeting suspended.  

10:43 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

I welcome David Cameron, chief executive officer of the Scottish Union of Supported Employment; Oxana MacGregor-Gunn, assistant director of operations at Scottish Action for Mental Health; and Ashley Ryan, director of Enable Works, Enable Scotland. Thank you all for coming.

I will start with a question that relates to our previous panel and come to Ashley Ryan first. We have a change in the delivery model from fair start Scotland to no one left behind, which in turn led to the creation of the local employability partnerships, from which we had witnesses earlier. I am interested in your view on how the LEPs are working. What has their impact been and have they been a positive move?