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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

I welcome our second panel. Craig Iles, who is service lead in planning and building standards at South Ayrshire Council, joins us virtually. Bill Lindsay is service manager, policy and place in planning services, at Fife Council, and Steve Rogers is head of economy and development at Dumfries and Galloway Council. As I said to the previous panel, if members and witnesses can keep their questions and answers as concise as possible, that will help us to get through this morning’s business.

I will ask an initial opening question. I will start with Steve Rogers. During our inquiry, we have heard about certain issues in planning that might present challenges for the redevelopment of town centres. Do you think that there is enough flexibility in the planning system to enable and support regeneration and investment in our town centres? We have heard about the pressures in planning departments, which include the lack of capacity. Could you also comment on that issue?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

Thank you. Mr Iles, is there anything that you want to add? During the inquiry, we have heard that there is sometimes frustration that planning will be restricted because of noise levels or other conditions. As Mr Lindsay has said, some of the restrictions are statutory and it is not possible for planners to make decisions that are counter to what the statutory position is.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

We have to make some progress. I have two members left and we are running out of time.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

Three members still wish to ask questions, so I ask people to be brief and as direct as possible in their questions and answers. That would be helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

I would like to thank all three witnesses for their contribution this morning. I move the meeting into private session.

12:10 Meeting continued in private until 12:23.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

I have a final question, and I apologise if you have already addressed it. There are a number of areas where councils can carry out work and reclaim the costs of the work from the owner. On paper that sounds very simple. Can it be difficult for councils to recoup expenses for work that it has carried out on defective properties and so on?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2022 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take in private item 4, which is consideration of our annual report. Are members content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

I thank witnesses for their contributions this morning, which is much appreciated. I will now briefly suspend to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:45 Meeting suspended.  

10:53 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

Mr Iles, you are not here as a VAT expert, so if you do not know the answer to this, that is fine. I understand that new builds are zero rated for VAT, but I thought that there was a rebate for the conversion of commercial buildings into residential properties.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Claire Baker

Would the council take on the work only if it reached the point of being a public safety issue, because there is uncertainty about being able to recoup the funds and having the owner be responsible?