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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 November 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

I am sorry if I sound as though I am repeating myself, but it comes down to the limited number of individuals involved. Consider the general population and how many people put their names forward to local authorities, and then apply that to a part of the community where a limited number of people would proceed. An even tinier number of people would be affected should there be any discrepancies and there is a by-election because someone has put their name forward when they should not have.

I am not saying that that is impossible but, if I were a betting man, I would not be betting on the chances of that happening. I am not saying that it could not happen; it could in extreme cases, but the numbers are such that there would be very few people to whom that would apply. On the whole, compared to by-elections that currently take place in local authorities, I do not think that the number will change to a great degree.

To give you more detail and make you feel even better, I will bring in Iain Hockenhull.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

Indeed—if we ended up in a place where I do not think that we are going to end up.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

I am confident that it is still correct.

I do not want to labour this point, and I agree with you that many island communities have embraced people from other parts of the world but, again, we should look at the numbers. I have a colleague who says, “Always look at the numbers, George.” If we do that, we see that most people who come to start a new life in Scotland will be in our urban population, and probably in our main cities. I take your point on board, but I am still okay with everything as it is.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

I will take the second question first. My officials will love me, because, every time that I appear before a committee, I add to the elections bill. I think that Iain Hockenhull has already said that the bill is getting a lot larger than it was. However, it is important that we look at all the options with regard to the consultation that we are putting forward. We need to make sure that, when we introduce our elections bill, in a number of years’ time, we have something robust to use in the future.

What was your first question again?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

I agree with your second option.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

We are currently working on the consultation. As I said, I am making my officials work hard because I keep adding to it. We are looking towards the end of this year.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

Depending on my not adding anything further to it. It all comes down to the minister’s discipline. Towards the end of the year, or maybe sooner, we should have the consultation. Then we can move on. As with everything else, the year in which we manage to introduce the bill depends on our getting time for it in the programme for government, but it will definitely be part of this session’s programme.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

I would be very surprised if, over the piece, we ended up with a record number of by-elections in local authorities and that that was causing financial problems for an authority. Should that ever happen, would we have a watching brief on that and possibly have a look at it? Yes, that would be the case. However, I find it difficult to think that we would end up with such a mass of by-elections.

It would be interesting to check how many by-elections there are, on average, over a given period. I will endeavour to look at that and get back to the committee with the detail. On the whole, I would be very surprised if that happened, but, if it did, I would keep an eye on it.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

I was going to say that that is what it is, and it would stay the same, because that is the role of a local councillor. I have been a councillor, and half of me thinks, “Why would somebody actually want to be a councillor?” I am sure that you will agree with me on that, Collette. It is a hard job for anyone, and you are literally on the front line of politics.

The important part of the bill is the enabling part for people who want to represent their community. In some cases, the communities involved are small hubs throughout the country. The bill will give people that opportunity. That does not take away from the fact that, as you and I and others here know, it is a difficult job. You are on the front line of politics. You are literally just down the street from many of the individuals you represent.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Local Government Elections (Candidacy Rights of Foreign Nationals) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

George Adam

No problem. That would be a case of what I said to the deputy convener. Regardless of who the individual is or which nation pulls out, this Parliament will follow suit.