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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

I have issues with that. A number of issues relating to the bill concern me, and that is one of them. The idea that someone can live in a tax haven thousands of miles away and invest in an election—whether it be millions, thousands or hundreds of pounds—concerns me, because they are not part of the democratic process and do not contribute to the UK. I am not even talking about Scotland; I am talking about the UK. I am concerned that people who invest money in various campaigns from abroad skew elections to a certain degree. It is unfair. It is just not right. I am a great believer in doing things by the book, and that kind of thing just smells bad to me.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

As I said earlier, in recent elections we have not had any examples of undue influence being a major issue. Third sector organisations and groups that are involved in elections are not screaming from the rooftops that the Government has to make a change in that regard. We are taking cognisance of the issue. We are listening to what the UK Government is saying and we are interested in what is going on, but, after our consultation in 2022, we will look at the matter—along with a raft of others—for our electoral reform bill in 2023.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

To be fair, convener, in front of me is a sign that says “Minister for Parliamentary Business”. George Adam’s opinion is irrelevant in this situation. I am here as the Minister for Parliamentary Business to talk about legislation that we might introduce in the next while. Yes, I have my own opinions on various things but, in my role, I have to take proposals through Parliament in a way that is open and transparent and that gives everyone the opportunity to engage.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

Yes I can, Mr Doris. The dialogue continues. We still have bilateral conversations with Wales or Westminster and trilateral conversations all together.

I admit that the most recent meeting was pretty fraught. The process has not been helped by there being a reshuffle in the UK Government, which meant that the minister with whom we had built up a relationship moved on, so we had to deal with a new minister and a new relationship. The UK minister’s portfolio has also become larger, so electoral reform is just one aspect of it.

We will continue to engage and communicate to try to find ways forward when we can. We are trying to work through the matter in a way that avoids confusion. I am not going to say that that will be easy, because of the way that things are, but we are doing our best to work through the situation.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

Things have changed; the bill has been a moveable feast. It has always been on our minds that, if there is a way forward and a different way of doing business that is valuable to us, for the people of Scotland, we will be happy to look at that for our bill. We have always looked at timescales. Sometimes things have been challenging, but we are pretty confident that we will be able to do everything that is needed for the bill in time for the next election.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

We will leave it at that, but with the caveat that things have not gone exactly smoothly in the process. Who knows what could come from that negotiation?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

I appreciate that Mr Mountain is trying to find common ground. I have done that myself over the past six months. However, key parts of the proposed legislation make that extremely difficult for us all—it is very difficult to find that common ground.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

We fundamentally disagree with the UK Government on the issue. I do not think that the Scottish Government has been quiet about its position that it does not believe that voter ID is the way forward. As Mr Mountain has heard from me today, it has been shouted from the rooftops that we fundamentally disagree with voter ID.

There is a big difference between something that we all fundamentally disagree with and aspects of the bill where we could probably find a Scottish solution.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

Committee members will be aware that there will be people who have been involved in the process, like us—we have known each other far too long—and our agents. Such people will be able to get involved in the consultation; they know, organically, how the process works. Getting information from those people will make a difference as we move forward.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

George Adam

Mr Mountain asked for my personal opinion and tried to get information about how things will go with regard to the bill. We disagree on some fundamental issues and that is one of them. I do not think that it is right, Mr Mountain.