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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 21 September 2026
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Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

It is just that the evidence that we have been given in the past has been pretty patchy.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

The Government is saying that it does not have all the ideas and that it wants there to be a conversation about reform. What would your key ideas be? What do you think could radically change the system and make a difference with regard to the delivery of the Promise?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

What I mean when I say that people do not care is that they do not lose sleep over who delivers the service; what they lose sleep over is the service not being delivered. If we are talking about the council—the thing that everybody interacts with—the fact is that people do not care who picks up their bins, as long as that actually happens.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

If I had someone from the Scottish Government sitting here, they would probably say that the Government communicates well and gives you the voice to enable you to do what you are talking about. The Government would say that it is already doing that, and that that is the only way to deliver the aims. In what way do you feel that you should be contributing more?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

Public service reform is going to be a major part of just about everything that we discuss in this place over the next five years. Obviously, you will have to continue to have conversations around the issue, as social workers, who you represent, have a major role to play in the delivery of the service. What pitch do you see your organisation making in the context of public service reform in order to deliver the Promise? That is the difficult balancing act that the Government will have to perform in the next couple of years.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

Does anyone else want to comment on PSR?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

George Adam

I am quite sure that the Scottish Government feels your pain on short-term funding. That is why we go through this budget process every year.

We are discussing a multi-agency approach to the delivery of the Promise. It is probably a perfect example of what we have been talking about for years in terms of finding a way to deliver a service nationally. Where are we doing that well? The best way to ask is probably this: in which areas has better progress been made on the Promise, and in which areas are we still struggling, and why is that?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

George Adam

Those who are working with me here today are probably not surprised that some of my grandchildren are neurodiverse, because I made a big thing about sitting on this side of the room as opposed to that side the room—sometimes, even such simple wee things are the issue.

You talked about there being gaps in the specialist workforce. What is the most proactive way to deal with that and to encourage those in the profession to go down that route? There is obviously a need for that, and we need to find a way to do it, so what are the Government’s plans for that?

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

George Adam

What are your thoughts on delivery? Obviously, in this session of Parliament, just about everything will be based on public sector reform. You are right to say that the Government is providing funding for addressing additional support needs, but the support is delivered by local authorities. Is there not a case for saying that that is also a major part of public sector reform? I say that because there is a need and we need to take a strategic view on how we deal with it, so the idea of 32 local authorities having 32 different ideas makes that a bit more complex and difficult.

Education and Gaelic Committee [Draft]

Programme for Government

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

George Adam

My final question is about skills and, in particular, apprenticeships. In the previous parliamentary session, we passed the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill at the last minute, and the Scottish Funding Council now deals with apprenticeships and all that. During our evidence sessions on that bill, witnesses from trade bodies that offer apprenticeships came to speak to us, and I asked about the profit that they take from the public money that they receive. They said that they take 40 per cent, which means that only 60 per cent actually goes on the apprenticeship and the 40 per cent is their top slice. When we compare that with colleges, we see that about 95 per cent goes to the student and 5 per cent is spent on admin.

Is there a better or more flexible way of delivering apprenticeships? In many cases, those trade bodies end up using the colleges anyway as part of the apprenticeship. Is there a different, more traditional way of looking at that? The fact that those companies are top-slicing 40 per cent into their sky rocket and walking away with the money causes me concern.