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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 October 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you, Dr Thomson, that was a helpful response. There are a couple of things in what you said that I want to follow up on.

Clearly, we have had a big problem over the past two years with intensive care unit beds being taken up by Covid patients. It seems that that is now on a downward trend, which is very positive. What have you picked up over the past few weeks about future trends? Do you expect the issue with delayed admission to start to work itself through, or is it with us for the longer term?

I have a second question, which I will ask now, to save time. There is clearly a workforce issue—that was mentioned in an earlier discussion in response to a question from the convener. You make the point in your submission that, even before Covid, emergency departments were “understaffed and under-resourced”. How do we solve that in the short term? Recruitment takes time; Dr Shackle said that it takes 10 years to train a general practitioner. I imagine that it takes a similar length of time to train staff in emergency medicine. Even if we started ramping up recruitment now, it would take a long time to work through the system. We probably cannot recruit from other countries, because they face exactly the same challenges that we are facing—quite apart from there being ethical issues in bringing to Scotland medical staff who have been trained in poorer countries. What more can be done to address the staffing issue and help us, without our having to wait 10 years for more medical staff to be trained here?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you, Dr Thomson. I have one more question—I am happy to open it up to other witnesses to get their perspectives. You have talked about the importance of retaining staff. Anecdotally, we hear that there is a huge issue across the NHS with burnout among staff who have had to live through the past two years of Covid. That has probably accelerated the trend of people seeking to take early retirement. Is that your perspective? If so, what practical steps could the Scottish Government and the NHS take to encourage people to stay on?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

I think that Professor Elder was hoping to come in.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

I will start by picking up on the convener’s last point, about a return to office working. It is fair to say that many employers will be moving to a hybrid model. What are the Scottish Government’s own plans in that regard?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

You would expect more than 5 per cent of staff to come to the office.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

I will ask Professor Leitch a separate question. We have heard a lot in the past week or so about the BA.2 subvariant of omicron. How worried should we be about it?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you. That is helpful. If somebody has had BA.1, can they then be infected with BA.2?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thanks. That is very helpful.

I have one more question for the cabinet secretary on a slightly different topic. We have heard from hospitality businesses that have still not received financial support. They were told in mid or early December that they would be restricted for the Christmas and Hogmanay period and they suffered significant financial losses. We are now at the beginning of February and they have not received payments. Will you give us an update as to when businesses can expect the payout?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Murdo Fraser

Earlier in the week, I spotted a press story that suggested that fewer than 5 per cent of the Government’s staff at Victoria Quay were turning up for work. Is that correct? Is that the level that you would expect? Would you not expect it to be higher?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Acts Report and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Murdo Fraser

Yes, I have a question that has come to me from a constituent; Jason Leitch might be best placed to respond to it. The situation is that the constituent was double vaccinated, and he then caught Covid. He has not yet had a booster. Under the vaccination certification scheme, he requires to get a booster. The point that he is making is that, having now had Covid, he would have natural immunity. Is it necessary for him to get a booster? What is the science behind that requirement?

I do not know whether Jason Leitch can help with that point.