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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Okay, thanks. Let me ask the others my original question, not about procurement but about what is not in the bill that should be in it. Morven Taylor, do you have any thoughts on what more you would like to see in the bill?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Let me follow that up. I do not know whether you heard the previous panel, but the FSB is very exercised by the procurement issue, and said that it wants the bill to be strengthened, not to specify targets but to put an obligation on local councils to set targets to increase the amount of spend that goes to local businesses or small businesses. What is your view on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have one more question about scrutiny. Mechanisms in the bill for the scrutiny of decisions taken by UK ministers are, of course, a matter for the UK Parliament. How will decisions that will be made by the Scottish ministers—for example to grant or withhold consent—be scrutinised?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

You are saying that it would not be appropriate to amend the bill so that it includes specific targets. However, we could oblige local authorities that have drawn up action plans to set a target themselves. That might be a way around the problem.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

I go back to Matt Pearce to answer my original question.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning, minister. Following on from the deputy convener’s questions, I want to understand the practical impact of the bill being passed. The context is clearly that, under the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020, the UK Government has the overriding objective of ensuring the free flow of products around the UK. You have told us that the consent of Scottish Government ministers would be required for any changes. How does that interact with the UK Government’s ambition to ensure that standards apply on the same basis around the UK?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Let me turn the question on its head: is there anything in the bill that you would like to see taken out?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

That would mean that, if the Scottish ministers refused consent and the UK Government respected that, it would apply to product regulation UK-wide.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Yes, but the purpose of the bill is about having standard regulations across the UK. What I am saying is that, if the Scottish ministers can stop changes in the devolved space, that will not just impact on Scotland. If the ambition is to align product regulation across the UK, that will surely have an impact across the UK.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

For example, you are saying that the Scottish ministers will have the power to withhold consent. How will such decisions be subject to scrutiny?