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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Would the number be in the hundreds or fewer than that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you—that is really interesting.

I move on to you, Rachel Helliwell. As I did with the others, I ask you to reflect on your experience of the process.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

We move on to item 2. The committee will hear from two panels of witnesses on Covid-19 surveillance.

The first panel will give evidence on waste water surveillance. I welcome to the meeting: Dr Rachel Helliwell, the director of the Centre of Expertise for Waters—CREW—and the Hydro Nation International Centre; George Ponton, head of research and innovation at Scottish Water; and Peter Singleton, research, innovation and evidence manager at the Scottish Environment Protection Agency. They all join us remotely.

I thank the witnesses for giving us their time and for their written submissions. We will allow an hour or so for the evidence session. I will start with some questions, then ask my colleagues to come in. If any of the witnesses would like to respond to a question that is not directed specifically to them, they should put an R in the chat box, then we will be able to bring them in. I am keen that everybody gets as much of an opportunity to speak as possible.

I ask each of the witnesses in turn, starting with Mr Ponton from Scottish Water, to tell us a little bit about their experience with waste water testing, how it worked in practice, what the challenges were and what they have learned from it for the future.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that. Do you have any reflections on the value that your work has had in driving Government policy?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Okay. Thank you very much.

I will ask Peter Singleton a similar question to the original question that I put to Mr Ponton. What was your experience of the programme? What lessons have been learned from it for the future?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you. Before I bring in the others, I have a couple of follow-up questions based on what you said.

How many test points were there across the country? What were the resourcing implications for Scottish Water in undertaking that work?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that.

As a follow-up, I will go back to funding. Is there funding in place to maintain the capacity that has been built up? Mr Gray suggested that there is not.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

What needs to happen?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you all. I appreciate your taking the time to come and speak to us. If you have any follow-up evidence to submit, please feel free to do so in writing.

There has been a lot of talk of sewage for so early in the day. I know that John Mason was delighted with that but, for the rest of us, it has been a bit of a challenge—but thank you very much.

We will have a brief suspension to allow a changeover of witnesses.

10:15 Meeting suspended.  

10:20 On resuming—  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Do you have a view on how valuable the exercise was to the Scottish Government and health advisers in formulating Covid policies?