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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 January 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning. A few weeks ago, Clackmannanshire Council told us about some of the work that it is doing in this area, and I am aware that different councils will be at different stages with all of this. We have also heard from many witnesses about the value of community wealth building and a lot of what the bill aims to achieve. However, this committee has to look at the bill that is before us and what difference it will make.

What difference does COSLA think that the bill will make? To an extent, you have already answered that in your responses to Michelle Thomson’s questions, but do you think that there are things that need to go into the bill to strengthen it, or is it your view that the less interference from Scottish Government the better, and therefore you are quite happy with it as it is?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have one more question, which I have asked other witness panels. Is there anything that is not in the bill that you want added to it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have a slightly broader question. Is there anything that is not in the bill that you think would improve it? I see that you are all thinking.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Emilia, would you like to add to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Jackie, do you have anything to add—for example, on community planning partnerships? Do you have a view on whether the bill will make a difference?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning. Will the bill have an impact on existing economic development structures and plans, including community planning partnerships and local place plans? What difference, if any, will the bill make? I put that to Jane Martin in the first instance.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Councillor Forson, I will ask you a specific question about procurement, which Gordon MacDonald touched on. Clackmannanshire Council has done very well in opening up procurement to local companies; it has a very good track record in that regard. How have you been able to deliver that? Is there anything that prevents other local councils from doing what you have been able to do?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning. I will follow up my colleague Gordon MacDonald’s line of questioning. Let me start at a fairly high level, as that is where you were. You are all enthusiastic about the benefits of community wealth building, and you all make a persuasive case in selling those to us.

Setting that aside, however, the committee is considering the bill, which effectively requires public bodies to produce action plans. As Neil McInroy hinted earlier, there is concern that people in local authorities are stressed, their budgets are squeezed and they have 101 other things to do. An officer gets the job of drafting the action plan, even though they might not be dedicated to doing the job. They prepare the action plan, it goes to a committee of councillors, they nod it through, it gets put on a shelf and nothing happens. Is there a danger that you are overselling the bill to us regarding what it will actually deliver? If that is the case, what do we need to do to the bill to ensure that it actually delivers?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Murdo Fraser

Is there anything that the bill could do that would help with that process? For example, it has been suggested that the procurement threshold of £50,000 could be raised. Do you have a view on that or on anything else?