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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Yes. Thank you for your forbearance, convener.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Yes, thank you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

I think that it would be helpful to get an idea of whether we are talking about 10 per cent or above or below that figure.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

That is exactly what the committee is trying to determine.

I have just one more question on the back of my colleague Richard Leonard’s earlier questions about workload. You referenced a number of complaints against MSPs. As you will be well aware, I have had a number of complaints made against me; I am pleased to say that none of them has resulted in a guilty conclusion—at least, not yet. The complaints seem to have dried up a little bit recently, although I realise that, by making that comment, I might be giving a hostage to fortune. Do you keep a league table of the most-complained-about MSPs? [Laughter.]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

No—that was very helpful, convener.

I am racking my brains trying to think of a body in which there is an investigating function and a board that determines, and in which that is done in-house. I cannot think of one, off the top of my head, but we will go away and have a think about that.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Exactly. You might be right, but we will go away and have a think about it.

I have a slightly different question on the creation of new commissioners. We are interested in the criteria for the establishment of new commissioners or, as we call them, SPCB-supported bodies. Do you have any thoughts on the criteria as they stand, and how they could be improved?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

That would be helpful. There are consumer groups, for example, that would help to spread the word.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning, minister. I have a mild fascination with this subject, dating back to my days in legal practice. To put that in context, I can remember being instructed by an England-based bank that had been approached by an impoverished Scottish farmer—not Jamie Halcro Johnston, I hasten to add. The bank was prepared to lend him some money and he had offered a flock of sheep as security, but I had to try to explain to the institution that it could not take security over the flock of sheep unless it took delivery of that flock, which was not of interest to the bank. I am delighted that the law has been reformed to simplify such processes, but that throws up a range of other issues that we must carefully consider.

You referred to the change in the definition of insolvency, which arose from the consultation process run by the Scottish Government. You mentioned the responses to that consultation, but those have not been published and we do not know what else was in them. Is there any reason why you have not published the consultation responses, and was there anything else in those responses that you considered but decided not to change at this stage?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

It would be of interest to the committee to see whether there are other issues that we could look at in future.

I will widen the point slightly. Minister, before you arrived, we had a discussion in private about some of the issues that are thrown up by the legislation, particularly the risk to a purchaser, whether it be a consumer or a business, in relation to moveable property. They might not be aware that the law has changed in this area and that whatever they are purchasing might be attached and have a charge against it, because that simply might not have crossed their radar. How much has the Government done to raise awareness or create publicity for those who might be impacted by that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

I guess that that is my concern. Raising awareness among practitioners is one thing, but not everybody who is purchasing something moveable would necessarily involve lawyers in the transaction. Whether it is a business or a consumer parting with quite a large sum of money for something, they might realise that there is a charge on it only after the event.