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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Murdo Fraser

Throughout this inquiry, we have heard a lot from different communities and stakeholders across Scotland. Generally, there has been a very positive message about city deals, what they have been able to deliver, the added value that they bring and all the projects that have come on board.

One of the things that the committee is interested in looking at is what happens next. Kevin Stewart and Gordon MacDonald both asked you about conversations that you have had with the UK Government. You said to Gordon that a lot of it “hangs on the UK Government’s spending review,” which we understand. However, in terms of planning ahead, has the Scottish Government had conversations with partners about the sort of projects that might form part of a phase 2 of the city deals? If you are in a discussion with the UK Government, being able to demonstrate that there is a pipeline of projects that might form part of round 2 of the city deals might be a useful argument to present.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Murdo Fraser

That was a very interesting answer. On the question of structures, a major factor in delivering the strategy successfully south of the border has been the metro mayors, who have the authority to drive it forward. Do our structures allow the political leadership at the local level to make that happen?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Murdo Fraser

To the relief of my colleagues, I will not mention flocks of sheep or combine harvesters today.

I place on record the fact that we got an eight-page response from you and that it was issued within 48 hours of your appearance at the committee last week and responded to points that were raised then. That excellent work is an exemplar of how ministers should behave.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning, Mr Bruce. It is nice to see you. I will follow on from Lorna Slater’s line of questioning.

As a committee, we are interested in looking at potential consolidation across the whole landscape. There are too many commissioners, to put it bluntly. Are there economies that could be pursued? You have already addressed that question in relation to the Standards Commission for Scotland, but I want to probe that a little further. For complaints against parliamentarians, there is a check, because such complaints go to the SPPA Committee, which makes the final determination in relation to sanction. Are you saying that it would be prejudicial to complainers to have the Standards Commission and your office put together as one body?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Let me ask you a slightly different question, because the other area that the committee is interested in is the creation of new SPCB-supported bodies. Do you have any thoughts on what criteria should be prioritised when we consider that matter?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Yes, and I should say that I have found you nothing but professional and courteous in all your dealings with me. I appreciate that.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

That is all right. We are interested to hear your thoughts.

I have one more question, which is a little off topic, but I will ask it because you are here. It is about how the Standards Commission views how councillors function. I have heard examples of councillors who are in opposition being told by council officers that political criticism that they make of the council is a breach of the code of conduct. It seems to me that that is a stifling of legitimate political debate. In effect, they are bullied into not voicing public criticism of the council by officers telling them that they will be reported to the Standards Commission. I will not do so in public, but I could give you examples of that.

Given that you are the convener of the Standards Commission, can you reassure me that, in such circumstances, councillors would not be found guilty of a breach of the code of conduct for making a legitimate political criticism of council decisions?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

You might not be able to answer this off the top of your head, but as a matter of experience and practice, how often does the Standards Commission reject a report that you have made against a councillor?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

We can perhaps pursue this with the Standards Commission in a moment, but I am interested to know on what basis the Standards Commission would say that you have done an investigation and determined a breach of the code of conduct on the part of a councillor but that it takes a different view.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning. I think that you were here for the questions that I asked Mr Bruce, and I want to ask you the same question as I asked him about the relationship between the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission. Do we need both bodies? Given that the committee is looking at the whole landscape of SPCB-supported bodies, would it be possible to have, in effect, one body doing the work? I am interested in hearing your perspective on that question.