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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 November 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Richard Lochhead

There are a lot of different debates on that. I will try to give an overview. Some Governments look to legislate to provide definitions of “sustainable development” and “wellbeing”, while others do not. The likes of Canada, the Netherlands and Finland have well-regarded frameworks but have not taken a legislative route—they do not need legislation and do not define those terms. That is the route that we prefer, but others might take a different view.

There is a whole debate around whether “sustainable development” should be defined in legislation, because it is such a broad term that means different things in different contexts. For example, it could be argued that, over the past decade, sustainable development in the context of reducing carbon emissions has been a much bigger issue than it was in the previous decade. Each organisation that is working on the issue will look at sustainable development depending on the context that it finds itself in, and there is a whole debate around whether “sustainable development” should be defined in legislation because of that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Richard Lochhead

There are concerns about the inclusion in the bill of definitions of “wellbeing” and “sustainable development”, because that could lead to the commissioner having very wide-ranging powers. The commissioner’s office might have to be quite large to cope with such a massive remit, which would create a whole new machine. At a time when our public bodies want to remain focused on their existing obligations, the prospect of suddenly having lots of investigations and activity over and above the national performance framework is causing some concern. I am sure that you will have seen the concerns that organisations such as Carnegie UK have been quoted as expressing about that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Richard Lochhead

If there were to be an option that saved costs and was more efficient, that would clearly be a more sensible way forward. It would not take away the wider concerns that Parliament has already endorsed, such as that creating new commissioners for advocacy roles should be absolutely the last resort.

As the financial memorandum for the bill outlines, and as others have said, significant and unknown costs would be associated with the proposed creation of a new commissioner. The total, even for the factors that we know about, could run into millions of pounds. If the definitions of “wellbeing” and “sustainable development” were as wide as the current proposal envisages, it would mean that investigations into all kinds of things could be launched. Again, those are all concerns that we would express.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

Because we are speaking about UEFA tickets. Therefore, the lawyers and the bill team looked at who needed to be exempted to ensure that we covered all bases. That is why the provision is included.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

Touting is selling a ticket for a profit. There is one organisation that will definitely be selling tickets for a profit for this event, and that is UEFA. Therefore, for clarity and for legal purposes, it is important to make sure that UEFA is exempt.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

Yes. I was about to say that there are exemptions for the likes of protests. Clearly, those are protected and subject to normal legislation—they are not covered by the bill. There is a particular exemption in the bill with regard to protests.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

First, Northern Ireland is not a host nation now—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

My understanding is that enforcement officers will have similar powers—although I am not too sure to which specific powers you are referring. I will bring in Lucy Carmichael.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

Again, we have carried out all the assessments—sorry, just to clarify, are you talking about post-event?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

UEFA European Championship (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Richard Lochhead

I do not know whether Lucy wants to come in on that aspect.