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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

It will come back to you after the meeting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

I am looking at the detail that we have been provided with on SAF production across the UK. From what I can see in the papers that the Royal Aeronautical Society has provided, around 19 sites across the UK where SAF production or development is taking place have been given support through the UK Government’s advanced fuels fund. Despite what you have said about what you think will be the likely model of production, particularly in the earlier stages—that is, modular and probably smaller scale—and despite Scotland’s natural attributes, it appears from this data that only one site in Scotland has secured funding from the UK Government’s advanced fuels fund. It is the one in Orkney that you mentioned earlier. Why do you think that that is the case?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

I have a quick question about project willow in Grangemouth, which the witnesses will be aware of. It has two potential SAF projects, project 6 and project 8. Project 6 is on HEFA and project 8 is on e-methanol and methanol to jet. It is suggested that the HEFA project could be operational by 2032 and project 8 by 2035. Are the timelines that have been suggested for those projects and project willow reasonable, or are they optimistic?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

It was suggested in our previous evidence session that 2035 is optimistic, but you think that it is probably broadly in line.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

That was helpful, because it brings me on to my next question. Do you think that the UK Government’s advanced fuels fund and the way in which it is being allocated properly reflect the way in which the SAF sector is likely to develop over the next 10 to 20 years?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

That is helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

Doug McKiernan, can you tell us, from your expertise and knowledge, what percentage of the SAF that is used by the aviation industry will come from the power-to-liquids sector by, say, 2040?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

I want to pick up on what type of SAF you think will be able to meet the aviation sector’s demands. Doug McKiernan, from your earlier comments, I got the impression that you feel that the only one of the three generations of SAF that is likely to meet the aviation industry’s demands is power to liquids. Is that the case? I am also interested in hearing Ralph Lavery’s views on that. Is that the only scalable option that can meet the demands of the aviation industry in the next 10, 20 or 30 years?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

Thanks. Ralph Lavery?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Michael Matheson

I was actually asking Ralph first.