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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are you open to listening to what the air-source heat pump sector is saying about the cost of electricity and the effectiveness of its technology? I see a huge amount of misinformation and lobbying around the heat in buildings bill to, in effect, portray air-source heat pumps as being highly expensive, particularly in the context of the electricity bills that many households face, but that does not match the reality of the technology that is being installed in Scotland.

If the sector comes to you and says, “There are some assumptions in your climate change plan and in the heat in buildings bill that are not right. We think that we can go further with the technology that we have”—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

We have the industry coming into Parliament tomorrow to talk to MSPs about the misinformation that is out there. I am concerned that that has perhaps influenced Government policy in a way that has led you to reject the advice not only of your officials, initially, but of the UK Climate Change Committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

No, I think that we can just move on.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay. I will leave my questions there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

We are considering a carbon budget to replace the previous interim targets for climate change. What is your analysis of Scotland’s contribution? Is it about right? Are there areas in which we could go faster? Is there a moral imperative to go faster, given our contribution to industrial emissions globally? I am interested in your thoughts, as climate scientists, on where you see Scotland sitting, particularly given the carbon budget that is before us this morning. Ellie Murtagh, do you want to come in on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are other countries around the world, in the early adopter space, seeing advantages of being the first mover, or is everybody sitting back and saying, “We don’t want a competitive disadvantage?”

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you.

09:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Would the level of adaptation investment differ substantially between a world at 2° of global warming and a world at 3° of global warming? Is there a point at which the level of adaptation investment infrastructure becomes markedly different, or are we just talking about deeper solutions continuing with the plans that are already in place, but going further?

I am mindful that we have invested in flood management schemes in Scotland that have been based on one-in-200-year events, which are now being downgraded to, in effect, one-in-50-year events. Where should we pitch adaptation in public policy? Is it that 3° world or a 2° world? We heard earlier that 1.5° is gone now. What is the best estimate of where we are going to land?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Gabi, do you want to come in first?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will be brief, convener. I am aware that there is quite a lot of uncertainty around peatlands and their impact on climate. Do they store carbon or release it? A bigger issue might be blue carbon in the seas and in wetlands. What is the state of the climate science on blue carbon? Are we turning a blind eye to a far greater source of carbon on which Governments could and perhaps should be intervening?

Who would like to offer a last comment on that? As I understand it, blue carbon is not part of the greenhouse gas inventory. Gabi Hegerl?