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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

Rob Carlow, do you have anything to add? There is a question about how Gresham House Forest Fund VI LP, as an entity, books a village hall and tells people what it is doing. What is good consultation in that regard?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay. Related to that is the transfer test. The original recommendation was for a public interest test. You will have heard our earlier witnesses talk about the advantages of that, rather than a transfer test being applied to the seller before sale. May I have your reflections on that? I go to Sandra Holmes first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

Yes. Clearly, the land management plans need to reflect the aspirations of people who want to hold land and wider landscape-scale recovery.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

I want to get your reflections on the ministerial powers over lotting decisions. I will go to Tara Wight first, as she had quite a few reflections on that issue in her written evidence, so it is obviously a concern for her members.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

It looks like Finlay Clark does not have any final reflections on that point, so I hand back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

Good morning, everybody. One of the key provisions in the bill is around land management planning. It is fair to say that, although we have seen good community consultation between landowners and communities across Scotland in the past, we have also seen some bad consultation. From your perspectives, where do you think there has been, and what do you think constitutes, good practice in relation to involving and consulting communities on land management? I am not picking on you, David, but given that the John Muir Trust is a landowner, do you want to start?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

Sarah, I will come back to you briefly. Is anything else missing from the bill? A few anomalies have arisen as a result of the Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Act 2024 and they are not covered by the bill that is before us. Are there any loose ends that the bill should cover and which it could include as we move forward?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will pose my question only to Sarah, then.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will bring you in, Rob, on where you see the boundary. We could talk about local place plans and the urban environment, but then all the land management decisions are up in the straths and in the hills and really have little to do with the community. In taking evidence, we have spoken to communities around Aberfeldy, for example—Forestry and Land Scotland is doing a consultation in the surrounding area. There is genuine community interest there in, say, forest crofts, as well as in people taking smaller lots, which might well fit with wider management objectives for forestry in the area. Where do you see local place plans fitting into that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

Leaving aside your comment about the cost of engagement and following the logic of your argument, would that save you money? Instead of having perhaps a speculative housing development on an area of green belt, you would have been able to say, “The community does or does not want this. Therefore, we have done all the consultation. We can go straight into consulting on a land management plan that is driven largely by the local place plan and what the community wants.” I take the point that you did a process that took £70,000 for a couple of days—that is eye-watering—but are you saying that the local place plan sets the agenda and you feed off that and that is a bit simpler?