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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

From your perspective, there is room for more ambition if those ideas are brought in, but it is not clear that they have been.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Jillian Anable, would you like to come in on consumer incentives?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Jarrod Birch, do you have any comments to add?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I understand. Thank you.

I invite Lloyd Austin to respond briefly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am here to listen to the evidence, so I would like to hear a brief contribution from Kevin Anderson if he wants to make one, and I will move quickly on to a final question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will be reading about that in the Daily Mail.

My final question is on contingency measures, which Mark Winskel mentioned earlier in relation to carbon capture and storage and the Acorn project. Three or four years ago, the UK Climate Change Committee warned that the Scottish Government needed to have a plan B on Acorn. There is very high dependency on negative emissions technologies, particularly in the third carbon budget. How should the plan deal with the question of contingency? Should there be trigger points in there?

It feels as though, between one climate change plan and the next, any decision on reliance on the gas grid—for example, for heating or for carbon capture and storage—has been put off. It feels as though many of those dependencies just sit there. Perhaps a contingency measure needs to be brought in, or a trigger point at which Governments have to either make a decision or say, “You know what? This is not going to happen, therefore we need to go to plan B.”

I will bring in Mark Winskel, but if anybody has something to add on the back of what he says they should indicate that they wish to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you, Kevin. I am aware of the time, so I want to ask the panel for some brief comments, please, about particular sectors. Are there any sectors in the plan that you feel could go faster, or will some sectors that have been identified struggle to reduce emissions that quickly? Are there question marks over particular policies or proposals for those sectors, because they are either too ambitious or not ambitious enough?

Can I get some brief comments on that? I will start with Lloyd Austin.

09:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

[Inaudible.]—more ambition if those ideas are brought in.