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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

Yes, or maybe you could just say how you would approach it. The point that Gary Fuller was making is that what councils can do is map out what the pathways might look like. What is your response to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

Thanks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

You have covered quite a few aspects of what makes an effective approach to local air quality management, such as delivery groups having a spread to other council areas, and I think that you mentioned communication when talking about the monitoring of LEZs. Are there any other aspects at the core of the successful delivery of air quality management through air quality management plans?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

Perhaps I should put it the other way around, because it seems that you are all working on delivery groups and that they are well established as part of your approach. Is it possible to have an effective approach without a delivery group? I ask that because there are councils in Scotland that have not set up delivery groups, even though they have AQMAs in place.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

The system that we have in Scotland is one of local air quality management in local authorities. We have had quite a lot of written evidence on that. The ESS report talks about the timescales for how plans are developed, reviewed and published. Gary Fuller made comments about monitoring vulnerable people, particularly outside schools, and we have had comments from Professor Campbell Gemmell about who provides the independent oversight of air quality management areas and the plans that come from them. How can the system be improved overall? I ask Gavin Thomson to answer that first, and then anybody else who wants to comment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

You made a specific point about monitoring vulnerable populations and monitoring outside schools. Should that be part of all plans, or should a place-based approach be taken?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

Is it adequate?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

I have one final question. Jackie Dunbar raised the issue earlier of the WHO limits, and we had some discussion on that with the first panel. To paraphrase, Gary Fuller was saying that strict compliance may be very challenging, but there is still work that councils can do to look at pathways towards potentially meeting those WHO limits on an area-wide basis. What is your response to that? Can councils look at what it would take and what the various pathways might be? I suppose that it might be possible to pick particular pathways that match the wider investment that you are planning in active travel or neighbourhood regeneration. I do not know, but it is interesting to know how you might approach that—or is it in the “too difficult to do” box?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

With existing resources?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Mark Ruskell

What does the support that is available from SEPA and the Scottish Government look like? Kenny Bisset said that SEPA sits on the delivery group but, beyond that, what does that support look like? Is it adequate?