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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Can you say more about what you consider to be an effective trigger for a target in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

It would be useful to have examples of where, practically, you see tension. The Government has said that the consent regime for grid infrastructure is problematic for EIAs. We have the UK Planning and Infrastructure Bill, a legislative consent memorandum for which has been considered by the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee this week.

Without going into the huge technicality around that, are the current systems fit for purpose? Is the overriding public interest test being applied? Are the tensions between net zero and wider protection of biodiversity being resolved in the existing system? I am interested in any reflections on environmental assessments, so pick out of that what you want.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are there any other reflections? I am particularly interested in the imperative reasons of overriding public interest—IROPI—test. Last week, a representative of the Chartered Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management gave an example of the test being applied in relation to a road between, I think, Mallaig and Fort William. Is the current system working well? What changes might we envisage ministers using the powers in the bill for?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you. Does Annie Breaden or Brendan Callaghan want to come in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Can I get some clarity on our current system or current lack of system for planning? There is a planning system out to 3 nautical miles. There is no planning system for fish farms beyond 3 nautical miles, but, if you were an innovative developer and you wanted to try to get a permission to put something beyond 3 nautical miles, which competent authority would you go to? Is that the marine directorate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are there other views on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

We have covered some of the areas that I wanted to ask about, but I want to go back to the issue of flexibility when it comes to protected sites and the very narrow potential use of the powers in the bill. Dr Leys, to what extent is NatureScot using the current powers in regulations 9D and 11? I get the impression that there is a reluctance to adjust the site network or make changes that could allow wider landscape-scale restoration. How are you using the existing system to make changes and variations where that makes sense to improve the environment?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I have a quick follow-up. Should part 2 be enacted, what would be ESS’s role in looking at the adequacy of existing environmental assessment regulations and habitats regulations appraisals? You will have heard the previous panel making some bespoke cases for change or adjustments. Would ESS have a role in advising ministers on what you would consider to be appropriate changes under part 2?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Is that currently part of your work plan? Is it a priority at the moment?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thanks.