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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You say that the £25,000 limit has been unchanged for the past 10 years. I must say that, when I was at university, it was part time, because there were only 12 hours a week of classes. I do not know what you mean by part time, because that was pretty much part time as far as I recall, and I understand that things have not changed that much.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Moving swiftly on, I call Liz Smith to be followed by Michael Marra.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Has the situation arisen partly because the universities were overdependent on overseas students and the UK Government brought in visa restrictions? The number of overseas students reduced immediately because of that, which has cost the sector a colossal amount of money, not just in Scotland but across the UK. There does not seem to have been a plan B in case that happened; everything was sunny uplands. This is going to continue indefinitely, and universities were not prepared for any change in policy.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I think that there is a frustration. According to your paper, 8.7 million individuals across the United Kingdom have work-limiting health conditions, but about 4.1 million of those people, which is about half of them, work.

We still have a situation where about 800,000 people are economically inactive, although we do not need to count the 200,000 of those who are students. The Federation of Small Businesses says that only 37 per cent of those aged 16 to 24 are economically active, but if we take the students out, that figure is totally different.

Your submission makes some really innovative suggestions, such as incentivising employers to recruit, retain and retrain older workers. A lot of older workers have a habit of going to work: not everyone wants to retire and some people who retire from one job might want to do something else or move to working part time. However, your paper does not really say how that could be achieved. Can you enlighten us a wee bit about that?

You also talk about empowering employers

“to reimagine job design and embed flexible and phased retirement options across their workforce”,

which seems to contradict that. In one paragraph, you talk about almost making it easier for people to retire while, in another, you are trying to get more older people into the workforce.

Finally, while I have you on the spot, you say that there is

“a growing trend of employers requesting workers return to the workplace”

but you say that almost as if it is a bad thing. Transport networks rely on the workforce to boost their incomes, as does the hospitality sector. For a lot of people, their mental health surely benefits from working with colleagues and exchanging ideas. I am the kind of person who does not want to spend their life on a screen or in their house; one of the reasons why I want to work is that I want to be with people. Everyone is different, obviously. Will you respond to some of the points that you made on the second page of your submission?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It used to be the case that, in many companies, you had to leave at a certain age.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I know a garage owner who takes on apprentices; he says that, during the first couple of years, they just break stuff. [Laughter.] It has always been like that; it is just about getting to know how things work.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You seem to be prepared to answer it, from what I can see.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I must say that you referenced old technology in your submission, but not new technology.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Well, I have to say that Germany’s economy has been stagnating for five years.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Sorry—we will let Elaine Morrison answer the first part of the question.