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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Oh, 0.1 per cent—sorry, I thought that you said 1 per cent. So, 0.6 per cent would be £18 billion.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Alistair, we started with you and we will finish with you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much. I think that that has certainly been taken on board by me and my colleagues.

We have 25 seconds left of the evidence session. It behoves me to thank the representatives of Scotland’s five national performance companies for coming along today. Thank you for your excellent contributions and a really interesting discussion. I look forward to seeing you all again soon.

I call a five-minute break to allow for a changeover of witnesses and a short break for members.

11:00 Meeting suspended.  

11:05 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

The second item on our agenda today is an evidence session with witnesses from the Office for Budget Responsibility, in relation to the UK context for the forthcoming Scottish budget for 2026-27. I welcome the following witnesses: Tom Josephs, a member of the budget responsibility committee; Laura Gardiner, chief of staff; and Rosie Colthorpe, deputy director for economy. Good morning and welcome to the meeting. I intend to allow about 90 minutes for the evidence session, although that might slip a little, and I invite Mr Josephs to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

To be fair to the performing companies, the impact assessment report goes some way towards doing that, because it emphasises the proportional importance of community engagement, for example, as I mentioned earlier, relative to the big performances in the cities. There is a proportionally greater benefit to going out to smaller places and engaging with schools and so on.

I want to move on, because we are running out of time—we have only about 15 minutes left and I want you all to have a minute or two to round up.

Despite all the talk of reduced funding, the Scottish Government still provides 46 per cent of the overall funding, so the public sector and other sources account for about 60 per cent of funding. Around £8.8 million comes from ticket sales. That makes the sector vulnerable.

The assessment says that although only one in seven tickets is sold to people who live outside Scotland, of which around half are from England and around half are from the rest of the world, those sales brings in about a quarter of the GVA. Are the companies considering placing more emphasis on attracting people from other parts of the world—even if it benefits big hotel chains—to come to Scotland and to enjoy the arts while they are here?

For example, when the committee visited Vilnius, I went to the ballet. We saw that they have built a new opera house and they are building yet another massive concert hall in the middle of Vilnius. They also have a facility for their orchestra. They are going big on the arts, so to speak. That must be to attract people from overseas, because I would not think that they would have a core audience in the city to sustain that.

What your views are on that? Although the public sector will always be critical to your long-term survival and sustainability, what else can be done to boost that, other than the Scottish Government, local authorities and so on providing additional funding?

Who wants to kick off with any of those issues?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

This is a round-table session; it is not a panel session, when we all just ask a barrage of questions. I am keen to get as many people in as possible, given that we have only got another hour and 10 minutes, so we will move to Liz Smith now, but I will come back to you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

When will the UK national debt top £3 trillion? We are about 99 per cent of the way there, I understand.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

I am going to let Liam Sinclair and Gavin Reid in. Three members—Michael Marra, Patrick Harvie and Liz Smith—have not come in at all, so we will have to move on after Liam and Gavin have spoken.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Clearly, it will contribute—it would be a worry if it did not—but it is about the level of contribution and impact on growth.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. Lastly, near the bottom of page 29 of your report, well below chart A, it says:

“UK and global productivity growth between the early 1990s and mid-2000s was likely boosted by rapid increases in trade as a share of GDP. UK trade intensity has stagnated since 2008, and we expect it to fall in the coming years due to the recent resurgence in global protectionism on top of the enduring effects of Brexit. This is set to weigh on productivity growth”.

The report goes on to say, in the final paragraph of page 46:

“Weak growth over the medium term reflects a more restrictive global trade environment as well as the ongoing impact of Brexit, which we continue to expect to reduce the overall trade intensity of the UK economy by 15 per cent in the long term.”

What are the implications of that on the UK finances to the end of the forecast period?