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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Indeed.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Why are you not prioritising those who have retired over those who are working?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
But how many were in the police cohort, the NHS cohort and so on?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
So that is basically your 65,000. Okay—that is fine
This will be my final question, you will be glad to know, before I open up the session to colleagues—all of whom are keen to ask questions, incidentally. What will be the overall cost of this entire process on the taxpayer? I know that the UK is paying for it, really, but what will be the overall cost of going through this process and resolving this issue?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Good morning and welcome to the 33rd meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. We have apologies from Craig Hoy, who is unable to attend the committee meeting today. We have also been joined by Clare Adamson, who has an interest in this particular issue.
The first item on our agenda is an evidence session with the Scottish Public Pensions Agency on the delivery of the McCloud remedy in Scotland. We are joined by the following witnesses from the Scottish Public Pensions Agency: Dr Stephen Pathirana, chief executive officer; Frances Graham, chief transformation officer; and Iain Coltman, head of pensions policy. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting and invite Dr Pathirana to make a short opening statement.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much for that. I will now open up the session.
10:30Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you to colleagues around the table for their questions and thank you for your evidence, Dr Pathirana. Do you want to make any further points before we wind up the session?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
What I am saying is, given the huge number of people involved, are you trying to at least get the easy ones off your desk?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Are you saying that a lot of the police are five to 10-minute cases, whereas others are taking eight hours?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 December 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You have increased from 300 staff members to 400, but you have gone from 12,000 cases a year to this monumental number. Your staff are clearly having to be considerably more productive than perhaps they were before. I do not want to be facetious, but you are talking about a huge amount of additional work. It does not seem to me that you have all the people you need. Is that fair to say?