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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2026 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. I wish you all a happy new year.
I am pleased to welcome Patrick Harvie as a returning member to the committee. Before I invite him to declare any interests, I would like to record our thanks to Ross Greer for all his hard work on the committee over the past four and a half years.
Patrick, would you like to declare any relevant interests?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Given the extent of the report that you provide to us, would it not be helpful to also have a paragraph explaining that each year, to save me having to ask these kinds of questions? Inevitably, if costs are significantly higher than inflation, we are going to be asking about that, and it would make life a lot easier for everyone concerned—and make scrutiny easier—if we had that information to hand.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
One of the issues that concerned the committee at the start of the session was the £3 million-plus that was, in my view, squandered on a not particularly brilliant website. We took a lot of evidence on that at the time. However, you say in your report that efficiency savings have been achieved through the
“use of Scottish Government procurement frameworks to drive value for money in contracts.”
I notice that the committee room conferencing system will cost £1.783 million. What has the difficulty been with the consoles that we have been using? It says in your budget submission that they are “obsolete”. However, they still seem to work, so why do we need to spend nearly £2 million to replace them?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I should say that, as far as the SPSO is concerned, the number of complaints was 5,021 in 2023-24. I just wanted to get the figures right.
Also, if there are employer costs and salary costs, they should be broken down instead of there being just staff costs. After all, the implication is obviously that they are salary costs, because you also have a line for “Staff Related/General Costs”, and it is not clear what the breakdown is.
I have been asking questions for long enough. I have plenty more, of course, but there are colleagues around the table who, annoyingly, want to ask questions, too. I call Craig Hoy first, to be followed by John Mason.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I am not going to say yes or no at this point. It is not nudge-nudge, wink-wink. We will discuss the issue in private session at some point.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Yes, a wee bit, but they are really only for members. They do not apply to the public, and it is about the public knowing about the shop; I do not think that there is any marketing of the shop at all. Hot water bottles and thermals, for example, might be a good marketing item at this particular moment in time.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
But there is no ability to quantify the gain that one would hope to secure in terms of employment, additional taxation, additional revenue or whatever.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I am sorry, but over what time period?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Well, if it is Baltic following your engagement, what does that say about your engagement? [Laughter.]
I will bring in Michelle Thomson.