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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 March 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, indeed.

Let us move on into the report. One of the things that you highlight is

“continuing to apply a 5% vacancy”

rate, which you say improves efficiency. How does it improve efficiency? I would like you to explain how that works. Is it 5 per cent across the board? Is it just the first 5 per cent of vacancies that occur? There must surely be certain circumstances in which a vacancy must be filled. It seems odd to me; if you can work with a 5 per cent vacancy rate, you surely have 5 per cent more staff than you really need. Will you talk us through how the vacancy rate works and how it makes the Parliament more efficient?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

But there is no ability to quantify the gain that one would hope to secure in terms of employment, additional taxation, additional revenue or whatever.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

I am sorry, but over what time period?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

As part of our scrutiny of the budget for 2026-27, we are taking evidence today from the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body on its budget bid for 2026-27. I welcome to the meeting Jackson Carlaw MSP, who is a member of the SPCB, and the following Scottish Parliament officials: David McGill, chief executive and clerk; Kerry Twyman, director of finance and resilience; and Andrew Munro, head of internal audit.

I intend to allow up to 90 minutes for the session. Mr Carlaw, would you like to entertain us with a brief opening statement?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Well, if it is Baltic following your engagement, what does that say about your engagement? [Laughter.]

I will bring in Michelle Thomson.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that clarification. I call Michael Marra, to be followed by Patrick Harvie.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

I turn to agenda item 4, which involves formal consideration of the motion on the order. I invite the minister to speak to and move motion S6M-20212.

Motion moved,

That the Finance and Public Administration Committee recommends that the Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (Investment Zones Relief) (Scotland) Order 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Ivan McKee]

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Would any member like to speak?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

All right. I will move on, as there are a lot of other things that I want to touch on, but others might wish to pick that up.

You talk about reducing electricity bills and usage through introducing

“LED lighting and other efficiencies generated by the ... Building Energy Management System.”

What other efficiencies have been introduced?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Well, it is no selling then, is it?

Michelle Thomson raised the fact that there is no January sale, which was not a flippant remark.

A decade ago, I went to buy 10 Christmas cards and I was told that they would cost £6.50 or whatever. I asked, “What if I buy 100?” and the answer was, “Well, that would be £65”. Anywhere else, when you buy things in bulk, you get a discount—but absolutely no such effort whatsoever is made there. I simply didnae buy any, obviously; instead I got my own made, like many other colleagues do.

I just think that a wee bit more thought needs to be put into the shop and what it can achieve in terms of the variety of the stock that it sells, the marketing—as has been alluded to—the discounting and so on. Why not have sales once or twice a year, for example? That has been tried in a very tepid way in the past, but there has not really been much effort. A wee bit more thought needs to be put into that.