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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The committee will publish a short report setting out our decision on the instrument following the meeting. I briefly suspend the meeting to allow officials to change position.

11:05 Meeting suspended.  

11:06 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The next item on our agenda is evidence from the Minister for Public Finance on the draft Public Services Reform (Scotland) Act 2010 (Part 2 Further Extension) Order 2025. The minister is joined by Angus Macleod, head of the public bodies support unit for the Scottish Government. I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is interesting that, in point 3 of the letter from the finance and resilience directorate of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, there is a thing called “Ministerial salary sacrifice”. You look reasonably comfortable, despite your hair shirt today, minister. You will be glad to know that the committee had a whip-round for you before you arrived this morning, given the 15-year voluntary—I would put “voluntary” in inverted commas—freeze on ministerial salaries. The letter also says that there is no intention of changing that freeze. In my view, it is hard to see how the public will continue to value the work of ministers if they do not seem to value it themselves.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

We talked about zero-based budgeting in the committee after our visit to Estonia, where the Government is doing that at a departmental level. Of course, it is done quite a lot in many areas of the private sector. Might you take that approach to some of those public bodies? It seems that some of them are there because they have always been there, but you could look at them and ask what their core activity is and whether it has to be that organisation that delivers that activity. Could you look at public bodies in that way?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In every debate, we hear more suggestions from your colleagues about the need for additional funding.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I call Craig Hoy, to be followed by Michelle Thomson.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Do you have any further points that you feel that we have not covered?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I recall that that commitment was made by Nicola Sturgeon.

The only other point that I want to make is that I neglected to give the apologies of Michael Marra, which is why people reading the Official Report will wonder why he has been so silent this morning. I belatedly give his apologies.

Thank you very much.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

We will have a short break before agenda item 2.

10:49 Meeting suspended.  

10:57 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. The first item on our agenda today is evidence on the financial memorandum for the Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill from Douglas Ross, the member in charge of the bill. He is joined by Neil Stewart, senior clerk at the non-Government bills unit. I welcome you both to the meeting and invite Douglas Ross to make a short opening statement.