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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Information on Climate Change (Working Group)

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

The next item on our agenda is consideration of a note from the clerk in relation to the Scottish Government and Scottish Parliament working group to improve budget information on climate change. Members have received a paper that contains background information on the group, along with a joint letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy and the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero, Energy and Transport setting out proposed next steps.

Members are invited to note the update in the letter and the fact that the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee will be taking the lead on this piece of work.

I ask the clerk whether she has anything to add to the information in the paper.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Information on Climate Change (Working Group)

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that. Members seem to be in agreement that we note the letter.

As the next item on our agenda is consideration of a work programme paper in private, I now close the public part of the meeting.

12:37 Meeting continued in private until 12:42.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

There would obviously be an issue in respect of large and smaller retailers, but I note that you are also seeking hypothecation of that money. That is not really what we do with taxation; taxes usually go into a big pot, and then ministers decide how to spend them. There are consequentials that might go straight to the national health service, for example, because that is a political decision that tends to be made. Is it “hypothecation” that you are looking for?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

I thank all the guests. We are almost 20 minutes over time, so I will not ask any further questions, you will be glad to know. Thank you all for your contributions. I thank John Dickie for coming here in person, and I particularly thank Age Scotland for its policy on concessionary travel, given that I will qualify as of tomorrow.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

I know. Who would believe it?

Anyway, thank you very much, everyone. I will now call a halt until 20 past 11 for a change of witnesses and a natural break.

11:04 Meeting suspended.  

11:18 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

The next question is also for you, but I will ask it of Kevin Robertson as well. The question is based on the STUC’s written submission, which stated that it does not agree with freezing income tax for the duration of this session of the Scottish Parliament. Obviously, Governments might or might not keep such promises. Do you think that that policy should be stuck with throughout this session or that it should be reconsidered?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

A sneaky way in which Governments can allow income tax to go up is by just not changing the bands, whereby fiscal drag allows inflation to bring more people into higher bands. What is the Scottish Property Federation’s view on whether income tax should be frozen for five years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

You said in your written submission:

“Our members are clear that tenants who can pay rent should do so, and those tenants who need support should be helped where a property owner has the means to do so.”

Can you expand on what you mean by that and on how support could be provided?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

The Parliament will spend some time deliberating that in the months ahead. Further on in your submission, you state:

“Planning and tax incentives to encourage mixed-use developments could support regeneration and help realise the ambition of 20-minute neighbourhoods.”

What planning and tax incentives did you have in mind there? Does Joanne Walker have any ideas in that area?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Kenneth Gibson

We will want to explore that in further depth.

Joanne, would you like to reply to the question on tax incentives to encourage mixed-use development?