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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

What is “fair and sustainable funding”?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Mr Tough, you also provided a lot of detail on your digitalisation strategy. You hope to invest in digitalisation but recoup that cost ultimately. Have you a time over which you think you will be able to recoup the cost of digitalisation, or will it always be something that you are never quite able to manage?

09:45  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. Thank you for that.

You know what I am going to ask you, Mr Burr. Question 9 was:

“How, if at all, is your organisation working collaboratively with other public sector organisations to produce joint service reform plans for the public body landscape and use of resources (for submission to the Scottish Government later this year)?”

The reason why I was surprised by your “Not applicable” response was that you talk about a single islands partnership. I would have thought that you would be working with the other public bodies on the islands, such as the NHS. I am sure that you do work closely with those bodies. Can you give us a wee response to those questions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Thank God you are not pushing that, John.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Sometimes it is hard not to get back in when you have multimember wards. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

That appears to have concluded questions from the committee. Are there any further points that you would like to make before we conclude the session?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. Thank you very much for your evidence this morning. It was very helpful to the committee. We will continue taking evidence on this subject after the summer recess.

That concludes our public evidence taking. As the next item on our agenda will be taken in private, I will call a five-minute recess to allow our witnesses to leave.

11:01 Meeting continued in private until 11:24.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Mr Emmott, all the evidence suggests that, even when you know that funding is only for one year, medium to long-term planning is extremely important. Do you not agree?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Staff will always be a major component, if not the major component, in all local authorities, no matter how digitalised they become.

Do you see digitalisation as an on-going thing or as a goal where you feel that you will be able to reach optimum service delivery?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I have talked about shared best practice among local authorities for many years. Should other local authorities look at how East Ayrshire does asset transfers? What could you learn from how other local authorities deliver services?