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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Professor Cameron, who gave evidence to the committee two weeks ago, talked about the Jersey child abuse inquiry. He said that they went back two years after the inquiry had concluded to see what recommendations had or had not been implemented. In his experience, that is the only time that that has happened.

You will be pleased to know that this will be my last question before I open up the discussion to colleagues around the table. Do you feel that that should be de rigueur for public inquiries?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the 19th meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. We have received apologies from Craig Hoy and Ross Greer.

Under our public agenda item, we will take evidence on the cost-effectiveness of Scottish public inquiries. I welcome Rebecca McKee, a senior researcher from the Institute for Government, and Mary Morgan, the chief executive of NHS National Services Scotland.

We have received a written submission from Mary Morgan, but we have not received one from Rebecca McKee, so will you take a couple of minutes to talk through what the Institute for Government does in relation to public inquiries, Rebecca?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There is a concern about vested interests and that that situation could continue.

Mary Morgan, do you want to come in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is great. Thank you very much for your evidence. We will continue our inquiry, but that concludes our evidence session and, indeed, today’s meeting.

Meeting closed at 11:50.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I was going to come on to that issue next.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Other colleagues will ask about that in greater detail, so I will not touch on that.

Do you accept that when people see senior counsel at the Covid-19 inquiry being paid £200 an hour and being able to charge up to 60 hours or £12,000 a week, or inquiries that go on for years, it seems like the vested interest of the legal profession is to keep things as they are? Rightly or wrongly, an inquiry is seen as a dripping roast for lawyers. Does that perception, which some people have—I am one of them, and the rest of the committee members are part of that, too—concern the Faculty of Advocates?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Kenneth Gibson

To be fair, that was in Mr Clancy’s submission, so perhaps it was an unfair question to ask you. I will go to Mr Clancy.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Indeed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If I am involved in an inquiry in which I am paid and I am calling for that inquiry to be deepened and widened, that is surely a conflict of interest. I would have a direct interest in the inquiry being broadened. Is that not the case? Is that in any way appropriate?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. I turn to Mr Pugh.

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