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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I like the way that you say “layperson”.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
That concludes questions from members. I have a final question. The report’s conclusion talks about
“the SFC’s potential to go beyond its role as official economic and fiscal forecaster and help raise awareness around fiscal challenges.”
The SFC has raised awareness about climate change and sustainability and there has not really been any political kickback, because it has been able to show a degree of political neutrality. You believe that the SFC should deepen its spending analysis beyond social security to offer more comprehensive insights into public spending trade-offs.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Are there any more points that you want to make to wind up the session?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
What should be the priorities for your successor?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
We move to questions from members, beginning with Liz Smith, to be followed by Ross Greer.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I think that we have been very fair and very open.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
The next agenda item is an evidence session with the Minister for Public Finance on the Scottish Landfill Tax (Standard Rate and Lower Rate) Order 2025. The minister is joined today by Jonathan Waite, the Aggregates Tax and Devolved Taxes Administration (Scotland) Bill team leader at the Scottish Government. I welcome them both and invite the minister to make a short opening statement.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
People have suggested in evidence that, notwithstanding that, there is an issue about the requirement for more capital investment. Clearly, if the bill goes through, there will be a right to recovery. You talk in the financial memorandum about publicising that, trying to reduce stigma and getting more people to come forward. There is a fear that there could be an upsurge in the number of people coming forward and that, even though the Scottish Government is going up to 650 beds, that will not be enough.
Paragraph 38 in the financial memorandum states:
“The average cost of a placement in a core programme in rehab in Scotland is £18,112”.
I understand how difficult it is to put together a financial memorandum on the issue, but it says that placement costs range from £6,504 to £27,500, for varying lengths of courses, and that the cost per week is £350 to £5,500. If there is an upsurge, there will be extra demand on private places as well, which I assume the Scottish Government would be expected to fund under the bill. The Scottish Government could be funding private places at £5,000-plus per week. As demand goes up, we could end up with costs rising exponentially because of such issues. How do you address that concern?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Do you feel that the financial memorandum reflects that? The evidence suggests that it does not. Finding people to do the work is one of the issues. Even if the Scottish Government had unlimited cash resources, it would still have to find people and train them to the required standard in order to deliver the outcomes that we would like to see.
Paragraph 85 of the financial memorandum says that
“the implementation of the Bill will lead to more completed treatments. This in turn will mean fewer repeat appointments being needed for patients who are seeking a new treatment, having had an unsuccessful patient journey.”
If staff numbers across Scotland are going to need to significantly increase, some staff will not have the same experience as those who work for organisations that have worked in the field for years or even decades. You are suggesting that the bill will lead to better outcomes, but I am not sure that we have the evidence that that will be the case, as some people will not have the same level of experience.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Kenneth Gibson
If more people receive treatment, it is clear, surely, that the level of support that is required will also rise commensurately.