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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Planes cannot fly without air traffic control.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
A number of people are keen to speak, which I am pleased about. We will start with Michelle.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I am not convinced that that is how zero-based budgeting works.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Zero-based budgeting is stuff like, for example, having a meeting on a Monday morning because we have always had a meeting on a Monday morning. It is sometimes about looking at little things like that and asking whether we need to do that or whether we can do something else with that time. It can be at quite a mundane level. It does not necessarily have to be about whether we should take a Khmer Rouge approach, John. I seem to remember you in the 2011 to 2016 session calling for the closure of hospitals and for all the money to be given to GP practices. That is on the public record. It has clearly been in your head for a wee while. However, that is not what it is about. It is about looking at where, within a structure, resources can be allocated more efficiently by asking, for example, do we really need to do that, or could we move resources somewhere else?
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
The issue of mental health is a growing one. For example, some years ago, it was revealed that more than half of all the cases that were taken to the children’s panel had a mental health component. There is a real issue around how well trained police officers are to deal with the often distressing incidents that they have to handle, in which mental health issues appear to be a growing component.
When the general public think about police services, they often think about the bobby on the beat or in a police station in the centre of a town. We have moved a long way from that, but perceptions have not changed along with that move.
We come back to you, Jack. I do not know whether zero-based budgeting is part of what NHS Scotland is doing at the moment. Perhaps you can tell us.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
We are looking at the Scottish spending review, which involves large sums of public money, so we want people to be very straightforward about exactly what they think. If you think that IJBs are the greatest thing since sliced bread, please tell us; if you think that they are the work of Satan, tell us that. I imagine that your view will be somewhere between those two extremes, but we are keen to hear it.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You said that there are opportunities for improvement. Will you give some examples of those?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
That is why the IJBs were established.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Capital funding is scheduled to reduce over the next five years. It is going to be the same in 2029-30 as it was in 2023-24 in real terms. Of course, that is only if you accept the gross domestic product deflator, which I think is a poor measure of capital.
I was going to save this issue for next week’s meeting, but I will mention it now, given what you have just said. The Scottish Futures Trust has talked about innovative funding mechanisms, such as road pricing and congestion charging. Motorists already pay 63.54p per litre in fuel duty, plus VAT, and they also pay VAT on whatever else is charged on a litre, so the total VAT probably comes to 70p to 85p a litre. They also pay road tax. Are those innovative charges realistic and deliverable? How popular would they be? I think that we know the answer to that second question.
What other mechanisms could be used to bring in additional capital for things such as routine road maintenance? We have all driven along some of the horrific roads that are an issue across the entire UK. It is a big problem, and Governments have tackled it in a half-hearted way. The UK Government has put significant money into the issue, but it appears that the money is being used for things other than what it is supposed to be used for.
Would you like to see, for example, as part of the annual capital allocation, a ring-fenced fund for tackling potholes, over and above the normal local government capital allocation, and for that to be distributed in line with the normal distribution formula?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You just want a big capital allocation.