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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay—we will go straight to questions. We do not have a submission from you either, so we will simply ask a series of questions on the budget.

First, I want to ask about the £820 million of additional funding that the Scottish Government is to receive. That comprises £510 million in resource funding and £310 million in capital funding over five years. One issue with that is that it is very much front loaded. Will you talk us through that? I understand that it ultimately leads to a cut in day-to-day spending in 2028-29.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You have not really touched on capital. The capital that is available to the Scottish Government will be much the same in 2029-30 as it was in 2023-24. There is a projected 1.6 per cent decline over the next five years. Given that growth is the UK chancellor’s overall priority, are you concerned about the impact of that decline, given the higher level of inflation capital?

The second point that I want you to respond to is about the overall cost of public procurement in the UK compared to, for example, Europe. Compared with other countries in Europe, the cost from the point of hiring consultants to the point of actual construction seems to be incredibly more expensive for projects that are quite similar. From high speed 2 down south to the A9 in Scotland, the costs seem to be colossal. What is the IFS’s view on these two issues: the capital position and the cost of capital procurement in this country?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is said that a camel is a horse designed by a committee, which is exactly what that tax system seems to be. It is as if a load of people sat down and all managed to add a wee bit into the mix without making it very clear or straightforward, as you have just said.

The Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts real GDP growth of 1.5 per cent across the UK in 2025, but the economy has shrunk in six of the past seven months, so is that forecast realistic?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

At the start of your response, you said that the UK measure would have an impact on the block grant adjustment. How much of an impact would you estimate that that is likely to have in the forthcoming financial year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Oh, I thought that you were talking about the £200 million change.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

We now move on to questions from members.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you, Ross. I appreciate that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It has been cheaper per kilometre for the Faroe Islands to build tunnels under the sea than it has been for the UK to build roads on the ground.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

One considers whether there are suspicions of a cartel in operation and so on. I am sure that, if this was the economy committee rather than the finance committee, we would consider that if we had the time to do so.

Thank you very much for your contribution today. We have gone over time by more than half an hour, which is because of the interesting responses that you have given to our many questions. I also want to thank you, David, for coming all the way up here in person. It really does make a difference to scrutiny having someone giving evidence in person rather than online. Everyone in the committee feels that: it has made a difference. Thank you very much and all the best for Christmas and the new year to you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The Gaelic is Nollaig chridheil—but I do not know if I am pronouncing that correctly. Thank you very much.

Just before we wind up the public part of the meeting, I want to put something on record. I am sad to say that this is Ross Greer’s last meeting as a member of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. He has been a very valued member of the committee for the past four and a half years. I appreciate that he is the Scottish Green Party’s co-leader and that he has a heavy burden, serving on two committees. He has decided to sacrifice his membership of the best committee in the Parliament, i.e. FPAC. You will be missed, Ross. All the best for the new year—with your lighter load.