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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

BBC Scotland

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

Covering them across the UK is not the point. The issue is about covering them in Scotland. They involve a Government that is active in Scotland and is impacting on Scottish people. You do not cover those things. I can give you 100 examples of things you have not covered—reserved issues that impact directly on people.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

BBC Scotland

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

Rhodri Talfan Davies said that you currently spend around £300 million a year. What proportion of the licence fee raised in Scotland is that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

BBC Scotland

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

Would that be unchanged over the last five years?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

I get that you are a regulator and that you do not have this power, but Westminster Governments have for decades now, I think, refused to list Scotland men’s—and, I would argue, women’s—football team events. As a result, people in Scotland have had to watch England play Albania, and they cannot watch Scotland play Spain or whatever. Does that not concern you as an organisation?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

Thanks.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

When we had the cast and employee representatives of “River City” here, the point was made that the BBC was essentially doing away with what might almost be called a cultural college, where sound recordists, camera people, production staff, actors and actresses could get their start in Scotland. That is going by the board, and it seems like a huge loss.

I want to go back to the example of “The Traitors”. You said that there was no history in Scotland of having—I forget your term for it.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

A reality show, yes. The fact that we did not have the talent to do that show is a condemnation of the track record, and it is compounded by your saying, “We will allow BBC”—or whoever produced it—“to do it this way, because they do not have the staff there.” However, that is what happens when you do not invest. Is that not the purpose of it? I would have thought that Ofcom would have had a vested interest in ensuring that the cultural capacity of the media in Scotland was sustained and sustainable. “The Traitors” is an example of the fact that that did not happen—you did not have people involved in that.

Is cultural capacity part of your remit? Are you concerned about its decline? I am talking about all the skills and trades, as well as the actors. I will let you answer that question and then come back with one more.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

But there is not a single person with the ability to do high-end reality shows.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

Is that the extent of your role? I talked to the folk from “River City” who were here about this, but the BBC seems to have a symbiotic relationship with Netflix and other streamers, in that, notwithstanding what has been said about skills shortages, its expenditure, its experience and the capacity that it creates are very useful to Netflix and others when they consider coming to Scotland. Does it not seem sensible to try to get those different players around the table and get them to agree on some proper way of creating a stream of that talent, whether it be production assistants, camera people and so on? Is that not part of your role?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Keith Brown

I appreciate that it might be the nature of your remit, but it seems extremely passive, with your talk of shining a light, issuing guidance, being flexible and nuance—all those things. It seems to me that playing a much more active role and trying to encourage a vibrant sector would be useful.

My last question is on sports fans in general, but football fans in particular, in Scotland being able to see matches that are important to them. That sort of thing has been declining. Aside from the lack of free-to-air matches, the coverage of Scottish football by other UK broadcasters is pretty appalling. Is Ofcom concerned about or involved with that at all?