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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 May 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

Keith Brown

I am conscious that, in the evidence that you have given us this morning, you have been consistent with each other and with what the committee has heard in this inquiry previously, except in one regard, which is the strength of feeling. In the past, we have heard from individual businesses that are said to have stopped exporting altogether to the EU. Some have gone bust—I am thinking particularly of a small business in Kintyre—and some have looked to be taken over. In one case, a business looked to be taken over by a German company, because that would make it easier to export to the EU. Businesses are pretty strident and negative about their experience. One company told us that it now finds it easier to export to Turkey, Russia and China than to the EU. That is an immediate drop-off. I think that the loss to the UK is meant to be at least £140 billion.

On the last point that Mr Williams raised about investment in the UK, we now hear that the City of London stock exchange has reduced in size significantly and that that is an on-going process.

I know that some of your organisations are the Scottish side of UK-wide organisations. I want to find out whether you have found a different experience in Scotland, or whether what you have just talked about is common throughout the UK. In Scotland, for many years, we have had a positive balance of payments—if there was such a thing—as we in Scotland export substantially more than the rest of the UK does, compared to what we import. I would be interested if you could say, from the point of view of your organisations, whether the things that we are experiencing, such as the mobility of labour, are common across the UK. Is that more pronounced in Scotland?

I will go to Mr Bain. Welcome, Mr Bain. I think that the last time we met was on “Newsnight” some years ago. It is nice to see you again. Would you like to come in on those points?

Meeting of the Parliament

Minister and Junior Minister

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

Keith Brown

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect. I would have voted yes.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Keith Brown

To ask the Scottish Government what support it is providing to organisations in Clackmannanshire to tackle poverty and inequalities. (S6O-03408)

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Keith Brown

I am aware that there will be a ministerial visit to Clackmannanshire shortly to learn more about some of the innovative work that is taking place between the local authority, the third sector and communities in the family wellbeing partnership, which is delivering significant positive outcomes. What more can the Scottish Government do to support such early intervention and prevention initiatives, which help those who are experiencing the greatest disadvantage?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 2 May 2024

Keith Brown

I thank the witnesses. We heard earlier in the inquiry—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 2 May 2024

Keith Brown

Earlier in the committee’s inquiry, we heard, mainly from Scottish stakeholders, that the Windsor agreement has been pretty disastrous. I think that, across the UK, £140 billion has been lost to the economy. We have heard of Scottish companies that have gone bust—which, from what you have said, has not happened in Northern Ireland. We have heard of Scottish companies that have stopped exporting to the EU completely, because it is too prohibitive. We have seen job losses and so on. We have also heard of Scottish companies that have been taken over—in one example, by a German company—because that makes it easier to trade with the EU. It seems that the experience in Scotland has been pretty disastrous given the additional costs of doing business, the friction, the regulations and so on. In fact, we heard that, for some businesses, it is more difficult to deal with the EU than to deal with Russia.

Your experience seems to be different, which is, no doubt, partly due to the dual market access that Northern Ireland has, although you have also said that the UK is becoming one of the most expensive places in the world to do business. Do you think that, where the Windsor agreement is working, it is working to the advantage of Northern Ireland and thereby to the disadvantage of Scotland? Both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay in the EU, but we have had very different paths since then. If that advantage exists, will you seek to protect it as the TCA evolves?

Meeting of the Parliament

First Minister’s Question Time

Meeting date: 2 May 2024

Keith Brown

What about Wales?

Meeting of the Parliament

First Minister’s Question Time

Meeting date: 2 May 2024

Keith Brown

And in Wales.

Meeting of the Parliament

Business Motion

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Keith Brown

I think that Mr Ross and I are agreed that we want to see this happen as quickly as possible. Given that the activity involved was undertaken by the Post Office, which is a reserved function, and overseen by the United Kingdom Government, does the member not think that the quickest approach would be for the UK Government to incorporate the process at the UK level, where the issue started? Has he asked the question at Westminster about why we cannot use that approach, which is the quickest and most effective way to do it? Surely he supports that. Is there any reason why he does not support it?

Meeting of the Parliament

Business Motion

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Keith Brown

Will the member give way?