The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
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You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
The Scottish Government’s position on the universal credit reductions that will come into effect tomorrow is well stated. We stated it again at the weekend, along with the First Ministers of Wales and Northern Ireland, when we appealed for a reversal of the decision to reduce universal credit.
The decision will increase the hardship that families face, and it illustrates the challenge that the Scottish Government faces in that, on one hand, we are trying to take a number of aligned measures—for example, in relation to school clothing grants, the removal of curriculum charges and the introduction of the Scottish child payment—which are designed to strengthen family incomes, only to find that, on the other hand, our approach is undermined by a decision of the United Kingdom Government.
We will continue to make representations to the UK Government in the hope that it recognises the damage that will be done to low-income households, and we will continue with our measures that try to impact on the financial wellbeing and security of such households.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
There are some very deep-seated and long-standing problems in Scottish society, with which successive Administrations have wrestled and which are the consequences of poverty. That deep-seated poverty has been a product of industrial decline and industrial change in our country over many years.
I make no apology that the Government’s strategy is absolutely focused on eradicating poverty and child poverty. If Mr Hoy wants to get behind us in doing that, that is all very well. The first thing that he could do is encourage his United Kingdom Government colleagues not to make our challenge worse with the attack on household income that will come tomorrow. Mr Hoy could do that if he wanted to help the process and support our strategy’s focus on eradicating poverty and giving people the opportunity of experiencing a better and safer life as a consequence.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
A lot of our efforts in this respect must be done by agreement, consent and example. We do not have the legislative powers to take many of the necessary actions, so we work in collaboration with business organisations and our trade union counterparts to agree common standards and apply them in the labour market in Scotland. The business organisations engage at all times constructively with us on such questions, and many employers set a really good example by paying the real living wage, engaging their employees in the operation of their organisations and having fair employment practices.
We will take forward such standards in all our dialogue. As a consequence of our partnership with the Scottish Green Party, a number of additional commitments have been made on conditionality and access to public sector funding, which are explicit in the agreement that we have reached. They will be applied to create the fair work conditions that Mr Mason talked about.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
The thinking behind the strategy has been discussed with local authorities and their leaders in recent weeks, and I have had a number of good and productive discussions with COSLA’s leadership on the questions. Local authorities are funded to provide free school meals.
As for achieving the child poverty targets, the Government is doing everything that it possibly can to reach the targets. We are conscious and seized of the importance of doing so, which is why the issue is at the heart of the strategy that I have set out to Parliament.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
That question certainly invites the crystal ball analysis. The Government has set out its framework for decision making around Covid, which is about looking at key indicators in relation to pressures on the national health service, capacity in the NHS and the extent of cases of the virus and the levels of vaccination in our community.
As the First Minister has just told Parliament, we find ourselves—at this moment—in a comparatively better position than we might have expected to be in. If we maintain the current rigorous pressure on the virus for the foreseeable future, that will put us in the strongest possible position to withstand the impact of the virus and then to experience a much greater return to normality than was experienced when we relaxed the restrictions in August.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
A lot of businesses are affected by the reduced footfall in town centres, and a number of public transport companies are experiencing such challenges. We have put in place a significant amount of support to enable such organisations to weather the difficult conditions.
Interventions that are part of the support that is available include the small business bonus scheme, which is a long-standing part of the Government’s programme that assists many organisations to prosper. We will encourage businesses to look at how best they can adapt their trading models to the new conditions that we must all adjust to. The business advisory networks that are in place provide a great deal of support to assist companies in that transition, and I encourage them to take up such offers where they are available.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
Development work on that important commitment is under way. It relates directly to some of the measures that I talked about in my statement and answers on delivering financial security for families. We view it as a key route to enabling us to navigate our way out of the impact of poverty on our society. The Government will continue to pursue the work that is being undertaken and will keep Parliament advised of the development of that policy.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
Presiding Officer, the coronavirus pandemic has had an enormous impact on the everyday lives of the people of Scotland.
As a nation, we came together to fight the pandemic. We made sacrifices to protect ourselves, each other and the national health service. The virus, and the measures that we took to fight it, changed every area of life—the ways in which we work, socialise and do business. The action that we took and the success of the vaccination programme in mitigating some of the most serious harms of the virus mean that we have been able, since the summer, to lift almost all the restrictions that we were living under.
Although important protections remain in place, and some new ones such as vaccination certification have been introduced, life is beginning to feel a lot more normal. That is a good thing for many of us, but not for us all. The pandemic highlighted the inequalities in our society. There were those who could work from home and those who could not; and there were those for whom Covid was a mild illness and those for whom it was life changing—or life ending.
Although the past eighteen months have not been easy for anyone, there are many for whom it has been much harder: in particular, people who were already coping with disadvantage. They were more likely to get seriously ill, to be hospitalised and, sadly, to die from Covid. They are also the hardest hit socially, educationally and economically due to the restrictions that it was necessary to introduce in order to control the spread of the virus.
We cannot go back to a life where some people, because of their income, health, disability, race or gender, are less secure and less able to protect themselves and their families from circumstances that are beyond their control. Our recovery must be about creating a fairer Scotland; it cannot be about going back to a way of living that for far too many people in Scotland was simply not good enough.
That is why today I am publishing “Covid Recovery Strategy: For a fairer future”. The document has a laser focus on addressing those inequalities. Central to the strategy is our determination to build on the spirit of co-operation, urgency and flexibility that characterised our response to the pandemic. If our people are secure and have firm foundations, our communities, businesses and society will be more resilient and will flourish.
The strategy is neither the end of the story, nor the whole of it. A vast amount of work has already been undertaken, notably on the NHS recovery plan and on the education recovery plan, which was published today, and more will follow. The strategy does not seek to provide that level of detail on recovery plans for individual public services, but it provides the overall principles that will guide them. The strategy has a clear vision: to address the inequalities that have been made worse by Covid, to make progress towards a wellbeing economy in which our success is judged on more than gross domestic product, and to accelerate inclusive and person-centred public services.
Throughout the pandemic and during the preparation of the Covid recovery strategy, the Government has been speaking to people in Scotland about what sort of recovery they want to see. People said that they wanted a recovery that achieves financial security for all; supports health and wellbeing; empowers communities and places; addresses the harms caused by the pandemic; recognises the value of time and social connections; advances equality and strengthens rights; starts from the individual and involves people in decision making; is evidence driven; supports economic development; and is ambitious and transformational.
We have listened to what people have told us and to what was shared through the citizens assembly and with the social renewal advisory board. The ambition for a fairer Scotland is the heart of the strategy and it lies behind the three outcomes that the strategy works towards: to establish financial security for low-income households, to enhance the wellbeing of children and young people, and to create good green jobs and fair work. Those three outcomes are supported by an overarching ambition to rebuild public services and learn the lessons of the pandemic when—because it mattered—boundaries were overcome and by necessity all spheres of government and the third sector came together to deliver truly person-centred services.
Overcoming boundaries was central to the approach that we took to homelessness during Covid. Pre-pandemic, Scotland had around 300 people sleeping rough or in shared dormitory-style accommodation. Those people generally have poorer health and higher rates of complex problems than the general population and were therefore at greater risk of the virus and its devastating consequences. Through our partnerships with local authorities and the third sector, rough sleeping was almost eradicated last year. Emergency accommodation was provided along with daily hot meals and emergency food, and enhanced independent living support was given to young women who were experiencing homelessness and who had experienced sexual assault.
Having a fixed place to stay also gave access to a range of vital support services; primary care, mental health, advocacy, employment support and addiction services came together to support individuals. That is just one example of how a collective national approach delivered truly person-centred service and it is exactly the type of approach that our country needs in relation to the Covid recovery. Our renewed and enhanced partnership with local government and working collaboratively with the third sector and business are the foundations of the strategy.
In the strategy, we set out the steps that the Government will take to ensure financial security for low-income families, including rolling out the Scottish child payment to children under 16 by the end of next year and doubling it to £20 per week per child as quickly as possible during this parliamentary session; expanding funded early learning and childcare for children aged one and two; designing a wraparound childcare system to provide care before and after school and in the holidays in which the least well-off families will pay nothing; reducing the costs of school with free breakfasts and lunches in primary school and the school uniform grant; and investing in employability support to get people into work.
To improve the wellbeing of children and young people, the strategy includes commitments to invest at least £500 million over this parliamentary session to create a whole family wellbeing fund, shift to preventative interventions, create holistic and universal support services, invest in mental health support for children and young people, and improve and scale up family support services.
The strategy details investment in important cultural and creative programmes, such as Sistema Scotland and the youth music initiative. It also outlines how we will address the opportunities that have been lost to young people during the pandemic through the young persons guarantee, which is providing up to £70 million this year so that every person between 16 and 24 has the opportunity to study, take up an apprenticeship, job or work experience, or take part in formal volunteering.
To support employment following the pandemic and Brexit, we will work to ensure that good green jobs are available; simplify investment in skills and training to ensure that people have support available throughout their lives; invest £200 million in adult upskilling and retraining opportunities; embed fair work so that people have good jobs and to increase productivity; and enhance equality of opportunity so that everyone can access, and progress in, work. We will work with local authorities on a community wealth-building plan to ensure that there are good local employment opportunities in every area.
I am pleased to tell members that the strategy has been agreed with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and is supported by local government.
Over the past 18 months, our response to Covid has been a shared endeavour. Our approach to recovery must be a shared endeavour, too, and local government is at the heart of that. Delivering on the strategy requires focus and prioritisation. Learning from the successful programme management of the delivery of 1,140 hours of early learning and childcare, the Scottish Government and COSLA will establish a Covid recovery programme board, which will be jointly chaired. That board will oversee the delivery of the strategy and ensure that focus is brought to that work over the coming 18 months.
Partnership with local government is essential, but our collective endeavour for recovery will also involve community groups, charities and voluntary organisations, and businesses large and small. There is no sector of Scottish life that does not have a part to play in the successful delivery of the strategy, and there is no sector that does not stand to gain from that success.
The role of the third sector during the crisis has been proven time and again in the rapid help that it and thousands of volunteers have provided to support communities. Collaboration has happened across organisations and traditional boundaries. We must build on that ability and strengthen the sector’s capacity in our recovery.
We know that economic recovery is central to the success of the strategy, and we will continue to work in partnership with business organisations. We are urgently working with them to better understand the challenges that are being faced as a result of the labour market shortages and to develop a working with business action plan, which will focus on employability, skills and fair work to identify the actions that are necessary to mitigate the impact of labour shortages. Later this year, we will publish a new 10-year national strategy for economic transformation that sets out plans for strengthening Scotland’s economy.
Today, the Government has published a strategy that sets out what we as a Government will do to ensure recovery from Covid in Scotland. It sets out an approach to ensure that the most affected are never so vulnerable again and to enable them to take steps to improve their lives and those of their families. It is a uniquely Scottish approach to progressive recovery that seeks to build a society that is better than what we had before.
Over the past 18 months, life has changed markedly. Over the next 18 months, which is the period that is covered by the strategy, we can build back on a fairer basis. To do that, we must move at pace and devote the same energy, imagination and urgency to Covid recovery as we devoted to the pandemic, to collectively achieve that change and drive a recovery that delivers for all of Scotland.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
I am grateful to Mr Fraser for his comments and his willingness to engage on the detail of the strategy. As he knows from the discussions that we have had in the cross-party group on Covid, I am open to discussion about the priorities that we should pursue.
Employment is a significant issue. There are acute labour market shortages in the economy and, at this stage, comparatively low levels of unemployment. However, substantial numbers of individuals have just come off furlough, and we await the impact of that on the labour market.
The Government already has in place a range of interventions, including the national transition training fund, the north-east skills fund, individual training accounts, the flexible workforce development fund and the young persons guarantee. The chancellor’s announcement the other day apparently indicates, at a high level, £41 million of consequential funding for the Scottish Government. As Mr Fraser would expect, we have to interrogate the detail of that, and look at it in the round of financial announcements that are made by the UK Government to make sure that it is actually £41 million of new money, because sometimes it is not new money.
We will look at that carefully, and announcements will be made by my colleagues as we look to deploy the resources to assist individuals and enable them to have good high-quality employment in the Scottish economy.
Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
John Swinney
We intend to work closely with our local authority partners to increase take-up. Funded ELC is a significant benefit for children and young people, so we have to ensure that the youngest and most vulnerable children in society are gaining access to what is being provided. It can also—this links to my answer to Daniel Johnson—help families to secure access to the employment market, which then strengthens their position into the bargain.
I assure Beatrice Wishart that we will work closely with local authorities to ensure that uptake is higher. I envisage that issue being taken up by the programme board that we will take forward, in partnership with local government, to ensure that we fulfil those commitments.