Chamber and committees

I have the list that is published on the Government website, so I am at a wee bit of a disadvantage in not knowing specifically to whom Mr Greer refers. I would be happy to pursue the issue subsequently. The list is available on the Government website. I feel that we have a reasonable level of participation from external organisations. I acknowledge the sensitivity of the matter and the concerns. It may be for a broader range of people to judge whether my view is appropriate.

The level of contribution by external organisations is broadly positive. I said in my opening remarks—

We will keep that under review, but I am confident. The number of applications that I shared in response to Mr Dey’s question were the numbers for November, when none of the new caseworkers were contributing, because some were still being recruited and some were in training. A lot of that training was also going on in December. We will only now, in January, begin to feel the benefit of the 23 caseworkers, so I expect the numbers that I put on the record in response to Mr Dey—the number of applications going from 26 to 66 a month—to increase in the coming months.

We are prioritising applications from people who have a terminal illness or who are over the age of 68. We utilised those two criteria in the advance payment scheme that we put in place in advance of establishing Redress Scotland, when we used the general powers that were available to the Government to put in place a temporary scheme, and we continue to apply them.

Although they might not have been allocated a caseworker, we have started a process of calling individuals to tell them that we have their application and it is being looked at. We are contacting individuals in a way that was not done in the beginning, as we recognise that there was a gap. People submitted their application and then there was a bit of a vacuum.

We put in that call to people within six weeks of the application being submitted so that they know that it has been recognised and is going through the process but that it might be some time before we get to it. As I say, I believe that we now have more momentum within the system, but we are yet to see the fruits of the recruitment of the additional caseworkers.

Definitely.

There is a difficulty there, because it is inevitable that, in the scheme, we will, unfortunately, need survivors to recount what has happened. That is unavoidable and inescapable in the scheme. That will come at a particular moment in the handling of the application, which is why we need to have the right people to properly handle that process with applicants. Regrettably, there is an inevitability about some of that because of the nature of the scheme. We are trying to address things that should never have happened in people’s lives, so that will be traumatic and painful. We try to reduce that to the minimum level possible, but it is an inevitable part of the scheme, unfortunately.

We will gather that information from our dialogue with survivors, and that dialogue is broader than simply the Redress Scotland process, if I can call it that. The discussion about the waiver acknowledges that there will be a group of people who decide that, because of the presence of the waiver, the scheme is not for them. Therefore, for us to provide as complete a picture as we can, we have to be cognisant of what those who are looking at the scheme and coming to the conclusion that it is not for them—because, for example, of the presence of the waiver—are considering about the scheme, and then we must formulate a position that reflects all of that information.

There will be applicants who will consider whether it is appropriate for them to sign the waiver once they see the proposition that comes to them from Redress Scotland, and it is important for us to gather that information and to reflect on that in the progress report that we undertake.

Given that we have completed and passed to Redress Scotland 345 applications, it is quite difficult to draw out patterns of opinions at this stage. Redress Scotland has made 277 redress determinations, and 255 applicants have already made a decision to accept their offer. A period of six months is given to an applicant to consider whether they wish to accept the application, so, according to that data, applicants in 22 cases have not yet decided to accept the offer. I am making an assumption that they are considering whether it is appropriate, and I imagine that the waiver will be part of their considerations.

Given the interest in the answers to those questions, we will endeavour to provide as much detail as we can in the 18-month report about the attitudes and views about the waiver and its significance.

I hope that that reassures the committee that the overwhelming majority of applicants see the proposition that comes to them as something that they are prepared to accept. I appreciate that I am making an assumption, based on that data. We probably have to interrogate applicants’ views and attitudes to conclude on that position.

It is a developing picture. I have put on the record the fact that we have made redress payments of just short of £11.4 million. We will just need to see how that develops. The data is there to be monitored against our original expectations, but, for this scheme, as I think that I acknowledged when we were looking at the bill’s financial memorandum, it was not possible to be absolutely certain about the cost. We made our best attempt to provide an evidence base, based on international experience. However, we live in Scotland, and it will be what it will be in relation to the applicants who come forward.

Obviously, it is appropriate and important that I continue to inform the committee about the development of payments as a matter of public record. If the committee wishes to reflect to me what information it wants to see regularly, I will happily supply that in letters to the convener to give the committee an update on that or any other information that is relevant to the committee’s deliberations.

I invite Gillian Nixon to explain.