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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

John Swinney

I am interested in the substance of the point that Mr Briggs and Meghan Gallacher are advancing in the debate. They are, in essence, saying that the design of the delivery of 1,140 hours around the country is inflexible because of the provision that is made on the ground.

I represent an area that, until 2022, had a Conservative-led council. That Conservative-led council introduced the childcare arrangements that are in place, which I am sure that Roz McCall is disassociating herself from, despite the fact that she was part of the administration that set them up.

Does Miles Briggs not accept that the flexibility that he seeks is contained in the powers of local authorities to design the childcare provision in their locality and that, if they choose to design it in the fashion in which it has been designed in my locality, where there is very little provision outwith the local authority, it is councils that take those decisions? Would the Conservatives take that power away from councils to effect the solution that Meghan Gallacher has her head in her hands about just now?

Meeting of the Parliament

Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

John Swinney

On Mr Mason’s point about the expansion of the concessionary travel scheme and the scheme being targeted, does he accept the argument that, as part of an employment or path-to-employment offer, it might be possible to offer concessionary travel support for a limited period, which would then be removed once an individual was in sustainable employment?

Meeting of the Parliament

Addressing Child Poverty Through Parental Employment

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

John Swinney

One of the tasks that I performed before I left Government was to chair a group of public service ministers. The group met regularly—certainly, during the pandemic, it met intensively. The group provided ministerial supervision of the creation of the child poverty delivery plan, which is at the heart of today’s debate. That work was very rewarding, because it drew together all the various aspects of the Government’s responsibilities in order to focus on the single problem of reducing and eradicating child poverty.

The plan recognised that the solution to the problem of child poverty does not lie in one single intervention, but rests on employment support, the child payment and the provision of a range of other supports in childcare, transport, health and education.

The intervention that I made on the minister earlier was perhaps a bit of self-interest to see whether the things that I believed to be absolutely critical when I was stewarding discussions in the Government are being maintained at the heart of the Government. We have to recognise—Mr Rennie made this point, with which I completely agree—that tackling child poverty must be multifaceted. No area of Government should be left out of activity to tackle child poverty.

It is reassuring that ministers have put on the record for the committee, in relation to its report, the importance that is attached to cross-ministerial working through the tackling child poverty programme board and the ministerial group on driving down child poverty, which is absolutely fundamental to the work.

It is also important to consider the perspective of external organisations, which can provide substantial challenge to the agenda that the Government is taking forward.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 7 March 2024

John Swinney

Did the minister hear the finance secretary say during the budget process that she had received no alternative proposals from the Conservatives? As a consequence, the proposition that has just been put to the minister is laughable. The finances cannot be delivered to support it because of the cuts to the Scottish Government’s budget by the United Kingdom Government budget.

Meeting of the Parliament

Eljamel and NHS Tayside Public Inquiry and Independent Clinical Review

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

John Swinney

Given the pressures on the national health service with which we are all familiar, is the cabinet secretary satisfied that there will be adequate access to clinical advice and input to enable Professor Wigmore to undertake the independent clinical reviews, so that the process is deeper than simply examining historical records and can provide good clinical analysis for individuals who have been so wronged through their treatment by Professor Eljamel?

Meeting of the Parliament

First Minister’s Question Time

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

John Swinney

The First Minister will be aware that Police Scotland is investigating the suspected murder of Brian Low in Aberfeldy, in my constituency, on 17 February. I take this opportunity to express my sympathy to Mr Low’s family for that terrible tragedy.

Does the First Minister recognise that that awful incident has caused deep unease in the community that I represent and that there is a need for full transparency from Police Scotland about its handling of the case? Does the First Minister also believe that it is vital that all resources are applied to bring to justice anyone involved, and that Police Scotland must maintain the necessary presence locally, in order to assure the community that I represent of its safety at this incredibly worrying time?

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

John Swinney

In responding to the intervention from my colleague Keith Brown, Mr Fraser mentioned some of the major difficulties that have faced the United Kingdom economy—Covid and Ukraine. I agree with him that those are big factors. Would he now like to apologise for his support for Liz Truss’s economic madness?

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

John Swinney

Will Mr Fraser give way?

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

John Swinney

Will Mr Fraser give way?

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

John Swinney

Will Mr Fraser give way?