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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
Good morning. I commend you for the wonderful work that you do. This is no reflection on the wonderful SPS staff, but the Scottish prison system is surely an international embarrassment. You have described prisoners being unable to get an appointment with a general practitioner, prisoners not getting fresh air every day and remand prisoners having to share cells with convicted prisoners. What will it take to change that?
10:15
I have a couple of points to make. The first is that, in some European countries, elected members have the statutory right to visit and monitor prisons. I know that that is the job that you do, but maybe we need a bit more oversight on some pressure points. My second point is that maybe there should be some statutory provisions in relation to some of the issues that you mention, such as fresh air or attending general practitioner appointments. It alarms me that a prisoner who we are responsible for in our prison system cannot get to their healthcare appointment because of the state of the prison system.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
: Given what you have said, should there be statutory rights to uphold the conventions against degrading treatment that you mentioned? For example, should there be a statutory right for prisoners to attend their GP appointments? Should there be a more legal structure to that? I am just thinking of ways to address that, because it has been going on for so long. We will have a debate on prisons in Parliament tomorrow, and I hope that there might be some consensus on alternatives to prison, but that takes time to work through. I just wondered whether there is anything specific that you think the committee should focus on with regard to that pressure point, so that we could maybe start to change things.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
Thank you very much.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
There was a time when justice committees were invited, but it depends very much on the person who is in post. You are taking the view that you would welcome it.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
Previous inspectors have taken the view that it is not appropriate. Would you be in favour of members having the right to attend? The visits that we will probably go on are very structured and informative and we learn so much from them. However, we need to consider having more pressure points right now, and one of them might be for elected members to have more rights to go into prisons as part of the scrutiny of what is going on inside prisons.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
The convener asked what themes and points we should pick up on from this morning’s meeting. The Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Act 2023 includes a provision that came about because the previous committee wanted to act on Friday release. It was concerned that, when prisoners were released on a Friday, they often did not get access to their medication, and the fact that the services that they needed were not available at the weekend was a major factor in reoffending. To pick up on Stephen Kerr’s point, we should probably do some post-legislative scrutiny of the 2023 act to see whether it has been effective.
On that theme, if we want to raise standards in our prisons before we can make further changes, should we focus on the rights of prisoners who have their hospital appointments cancelled because of the situation that you described? I do not know what happens when a prisoner does not get to their hospital appointment. Do they have to go at the end of the queue? That is just one example, but the committee could try to persuade ministers that there should be some basic standards while we are trying to make further changes in the system. You could pick another example, but I wonder what you think about that.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 June 2026
Pauline McNeill
I have no relevant interests to declare.