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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Could self-defence not be argued in court in such cases?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

That is what I thought you said. It is a striking comment. Do the other witnesses share that view about the register?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

I know, but I just want to understand—

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

This is a central part of the bill, and that comment is very pertinent, so I just wanted to get your reaction to that. As I understand it, the purpose of putting convicted offenders on the list would be so that the police could monitor them. I acknowledge what has been said about resources and everything else, but that would be the purpose of it, so it is quite interesting to hear that there might be an unintended consequence. Tumay, do you want to comment?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Okay. As you have said, there are many implications, and you mentioned at the beginning the wider roles of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service. Sometimes, we do not talk enough about the role that you have if there is an accident on the M8 or elsewhere and your critical role in saving people’s lives. I will not go into my concerns about shutting the stations in Cowcaddens and Yorkhill, which are in the region that I represent, but I think that Cowcaddens is a good example of a station that fulfils that role. You can correct me if I am wrong, but I assume that the location of a fire station such as the one in Cowcaddens, which is so close to a big motorway—the M8—is critical to the response times for serious accidents that happen on the motorway. Or is that not the case?

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Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Are we talking about cases in which a woman has been charged with assault, for example?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

I want to explore what Agnes Tolmie said about angry men, which really struck me. First, Agnes, can I just check whether your concern is that the notification requirement for those men to be on the list would almost be a provocation, so it would not keep women safe? Did you mean that it would be provocative and that it might lead to more violence?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Thank you. Lastly, if I may ask—

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Good morning. I want to explore how we got here. I am familiar with centralisation, and I know that you supported it. You probably did not think that, in 2025, you would be here telling us about cuts of almost £1 billion, because the point of the exercise was not to make all these cuts. The committee heard from the Fire and Rescue Service management team, which was, at least, clear that it needed a certain amount of money and that otherwise it would have to reduce the head count. In that sense, the union and the management are saying the same thing, although you might disagree with the figures. I would say that this is the starkest warning that I have ever seen from justice partners. The police are saying the same thing that you are saying: you went along with the centralisation, you made the efficiency savings, and now you are coming to the committee and telling us that this is going to impact on the people we represent. I think that it is the most serious situation that I can recall as an elected member.

I am sure that you will know this off by heart, but, in your submission, you said that, in 2024,

“sustained underfunding forced the SFRS to ‘temporarily withdraw’ 10 frontline fire appliances and reduce operational headcount by 166 firefighter posts in September 2023.”

So, it was temporary, but you predicted that it would be permanent, and you were right, because, as you go on to say,

“The inclusion of ‘permanent solutions’ to the cuts imposed in 2023 is evidence that the FBU concerns were well founded.”

Rather than go over the whole 13 years, why do we not start there? Is there another example that would better illustrate where the big cuts have started to happen? What has the responsible minister been saying to you? I presume that you have met with her and discussed it. Can you share that with the committee?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Are you getting any response to that?